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Registered: December 20, 2002
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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quote: How can you be such an...ASS HOLE!!?
Years of experience. I take it as a compliment these days. You'll have to do better than insult me if you want to be taken seriously. Try arguing with facts. That generally does the trick. And yes, I know I am an animal. Which is why I'm justified in eating other animals. They'd do it to me if I gave them the chance. Survival of the fittest, my dear. Which, of course, includes being the strongest and most exploitive. You should see humpback whales corralling krill. It's horrible. The krill never have a chance. And I'm sure they suffer somehow. Baleen is kind of prickly.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: December 06, 2006
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quote: Originally posted by clpo13: quote: and I don't understand why they do this, either
When you put chickens in an enclosed space, they tend to peck. Each other, that is. No beaks means no pecking. And that means I don't have to deal with bruised meat when I buy chicken. The animals I eat are not my friends. I never met them, I never knew them, they are essentially complete strangers to me. I would definitely feel guilty about cutting off my friend's lips, but the chicken was never my friend. It may seem a bit distant, but that's just me. That's my personality. I've watched PETA movies and they do not affect me at all. But if I had the money, I'd eat free range. So it's all good.
How can you be such an... hmm... what was I thinking of?... ASS HOLE!!? Animals feel pain as you do DAMN RIGHT YOU SHOULD CARE What if you were put through that pain? HUH? WE ARE ALL ANIMALS
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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quote: and I don't understand why they do this, either
When you put chickens in an enclosed space, they tend to peck. Each other, that is. No beaks means no pecking. And that means I don't have to deal with bruised meat when I buy chicken. The animals I eat are not my friends. I never met them, I never knew them, they are essentially complete strangers to me. I would definitely feel guilty about cutting off my friend's lips, but the chicken was never my friend. It may seem a bit distant, but that's just me. That's my personality. I've watched PETA movies and they do not affect me at all. But if I had the money, I'd eat free range. So it's all good.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: November 06, 2006
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*Before I begin, I just want to say I'm not replying to anyone's comments and I am not trying to offend anyone. Thanks.* I just really don't understand how stupid some people can be. Why do some think that killing a pig or a cow is any better than killing their own pets? I recently read a letter by Chief Seattle, and it really got to me. Who are we to sell the sky, or the ground? "Mankind is not the weaver of the web of life, but merely a strand in it." I believe cutting a chicken's beak off (and I don't understand why they do this, either) is just as bad as cutting, say, your friend's lips off. I just am so dumbfounded by animal cruelty that I am left completely - and no exaggerating here - and utterly speechless. I just don't know what to say. After exploring a few sites, I literally walked away shaking. I had to cuddle both my mom, my dad, and my two cats for like an hour to get over that. Please visit at least one of the following websites: www.peta.comwww.kentuckyfriedcruelty.comwww.circuses.comP.S. My dad also told me something today that isn't entirely on the subject but is inspiring nonetheless. "Everyone starts off with an 8 oz. glass of water. You can use all 8 oz. of that water, or worry about someone else's water, someone's who you can do nothing about. If you focus your energy on impossibility, you might only use, say, five of the eight ounces." Just think about that for a second. Makes ya think.
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Registered: January 15, 2003
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quote: i have five pet chickens and they are dumb but sweet don't judge a chicken by its head size
Haha. That has to be the funniest thing I've ever read.
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Registered: August 08, 2006
Posts: 12
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i have five pet chickens and they are dumb but sweet don't judge a chicken by its head size 
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Registered: August 09, 2006
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I saw super size me and it only made me want to eat mcdonalds more.
The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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You only really need to worry about quality if you eat it every day. And I don't think any of us are stupid enough to eat fast food hamburgers every day. Except Morgan Spurlock. Of course McDonald's is going to be bad for you if you eat it three times a day...
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: March 13, 2002
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quote: Originally posted by speed: subway is ok in comparison to the other alternatives  your supposed to worry about the fact there is little to no quality control at all of what you're eating. Dunno, I don' trust burger joints anymore, but I didn't before so i guess I'm biased on the matter. Fastfood is sh*t no matter what.
El cheapo fried burgers are tasty as hell though. You eat one every once in a while and you're fine. You'd get worse consequences from smoking a cigarette.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: February 05, 2005
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subway is ok in comparison to the other alternatives  your supposed to worry about the fact there is little to no quality control at all of what you're eating. Dunno, I don' trust burger joints anymore, but I didn't before so i guess I'm biased on the matter. Fastfood is sh*t no matter what.
If god existed he'd be right winged
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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I read parts of Fast Food Nation. It didn't phase me at all. What am I supposed to worry about? The artificial flavorings? The poor job quality for fast food workers? The fact that cows actually died to bring me my Big Mac? I don't east fast food that much, but I do like it every so often. I know it's not the best thing for me, but, hey, that's why I exercise and eat Subway more often than not.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: October 22, 2006
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I lived on an island where there were no fastfood restaraunts anywhere. So I didn't grow up with it, and now I don't eat it  - That often anyway, I'll stop at Tim's once and awhile 
J'irai bien.
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Registered: February 05, 2005
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Read Fast Food Nation and you won't eat at a fastfood joint ever again I promise.
If god existed he'd be right winged
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Registered: March 13, 2002
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quote: I must admit that I am not a vegetarian and enjoy a good hamburger every once in a while, but I would much rather have left the Native Americans alone to do it their way - they were ten times kinder than us - they treasured the animal before killing it, and used every bit of it afterwards.
Yeah, they just ran buffalo herds off cliffs and killed them with primitive spears. The irony is that our modern food production is far, far more efficient as far as use of the animal goes. You've got to squeeze every last dollar out of the carcass if you want to maximize profitablity. And they do, quit literally, squeeze it all out. Horray Capitalism! We've actually found ways to turn animal byproducts into gasoline and fuel oil.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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quote: Animals are human
Humans are animals, I think you mean. quote: We, on the other hand, step on and throw innocent birds across the room just because we're bigger than them. Why is this bad? You're applying human rights to animals. It's nature. The only rules there are in nature are what the biggest, baddest animal makes up. And, more often than not, we humans are the biggest, baddest animals. If you go out into the Savannah unarmed, you'll most likely be attacked and killed by a lion. The lion will eat some of you but leave the rest for scavengers. Is the lion wrong for not eating all of you? Is the lion wrong for killing you in a way that makes you suffer? Of course not. Then why are humans any different? We may have the capability to be more compassionate, but that doesn't mean we are obligated to act in that manner.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: November 06, 2006
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Some of the quotes posted on the site are so unfathomably stupid I cannot even express my anger. I cannot believe that people are so ignorant that they think a chicken should be brutally tortured and burned alive just because they don't have one as a pet. Animals are human. I think humans have completely thrown off the way the world works, and now everyone has in their head that we're at the top of everything just because we have brutally conquered more peaceful species and reproduced ourselves out of control. I must admit that I am not a vegetarian and enjoy a good hamburger every once in a while, but I would much rather have left the Native Americans alone to do it their way - they were ten times kinder than us - they treasured the animal before killing it, and used every bit of it afterwards. We, on the other hand, step on and throw innocent birds across the room just because we're bigger than them. Then we dip them in scalding hot water. I really am left speechless after watching the pathetic acts in Pamela's video. I used to love KFC, so this is hard to say, but I think I will boycott it also.
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Registered: August 05, 2006
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quote: Originally posted by elphabelle21: kfc sucks!
Dot dot dot quote: ChaosSplintered, maybe you should consider reading Animal Liberation by Peter Singer, he addresses these very things (not KFC of course) in it.
Until then? I'm reading through the Amazon reviews right now, and it is seemingly getting a good score, so I might put it on my list. But until then, my statements still remain? quote: Because PETA targets one fast food chain at a time to use their resources most effectively. When they declare victory, they move on to the next chain. I think I've explained this before...?
I am honestly, not trying to slander PETA (Hey, you mentioned them) here, but that just made me think of this analogy: "Because terrorism targets one country at a time to use their resources most effectively. When they declare victory, they move on to the next country...". I mean, yeah, targeting a sole country is an acceptable practice of war. It's done/has been done/most likely will be done in the future. It just seems though, like it's warfare, and instead of education and debate and all that good stuff, you have the sparatic attempted eradiction of facilities.
Cheated the way from fringe to elite. Clique of stylists, rounded illogic skipping a beat to a dead cert. By lheaving charges and bursting the abscess, with a forked toungue, bloated with courage and spewing self-importance. Drop your sights, aim lower, leave umblemished those with real power.
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Registered: October 04, 2006
Posts: 13
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kfc sucks!
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Registered: December 14, 2003
Posts: 381
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ChaosSplintered, maybe you should consider reading Animal Liberation by Peter Singer, he addresses these very things (not KFC of course) in it. quote: I guess I don't understand why people who hate KFC aren't complaining about the other chicken chains in America.
Because PETA targets one fast food chain at a time to use their resources most effectively. When they declare victory, they move on to the next chain. I think I've explained this before...?
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