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Registered: September 06, 2003
Posts: 805
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quote: It's bad because all the .... nasty insects lose their homes, forcing them to move into surrounding trees.
Or move into our houses. I hate spiders.
"Fu*k me gently with a chainsaw" -Heather
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Registered: April 24, 2003
Posts: 2196
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Duh you guys... It's bad because all the squirrels, birds, chipmunks, and nasty insects lose their homes, forcing them to move into surrounding trees. Then those trees get cut down and the original organisms that inhabited the tree + the newbies all have to move to other trees, and so on. Eventually it will cause a massive amount of organisms to live in a limited amount trees and they will all kill each other and ruin the trees that were not cut down. So really, if you don't want an entire rainforest to live on one tree, don't cut them down 
"Victories that are easy are cheap. Those only that are worth having are the ones which come as the result of hard fighting"-Henry Ward Beecher
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Registered: March 13, 2002
Posts: 3477
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It affects the ozone layer simply because they produce a (small) portion of our atmosphere's oxygen. More O2 increases the chances for the electical forces in the upper atmosphere to form 03, a.k.a. Ozone. So it's not really an issue if we're logging as long as we're replanting trees. That's by and large the situation in any developed country, and certainly the US. Logging like this does not affect the ozone layer in any signifigant way, and might actually be benificial because younger growing trees have more active photosynthesis than dormant old growth. As for the 80's the CFCs that caused that aren't really used anymore, and the hole they created is slowly filling up.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: September 06, 2003
Posts: 805
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it's only bad when its not in moderation. trees=fresh air=healthier ozone, I would asssume. I know that it affects the ozone, just not sure... how... But then again so did all the hair sprays in the 80's so eh I don't really understand the ozone very well.
"Fu*k me gently with a chainsaw" -Heather
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6956
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Because the massive trucks that haul them away to the factories are entirely too slow, thus holding up traffic, causing freeway congestion, polluting the air, and promoting communism?
"We know how cruel the truth often is, and we wonder whether delusion is not more consoling"
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Registered: June 09, 2003
Posts: 5084
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Ah, there are a severe lack of those lately.
None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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Registered: March 13, 2002
Posts: 3477
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Haha, yes. On the condition that I keep finding interesting topics to actually post on.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: June 09, 2003
Posts: 5084
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Strangelove, are you truly back?
None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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Registered: March 13, 2002
Posts: 3477
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quote: but when you cut then down and do not replant any more trees (and dont even try to say that lumber companies do this because they most definitely do NOT no matter what crappy excuse you can make up)
You have absolutely no freaking idea what you're talking about. None whatsoever. You thin we've just been consuming lumber for 300 years on this continent and not replanting or maintaining the forests? Go look for lumber farms. Or even better, look how the selective harvest has worked in the Black Hills. That's a HUGE success story where the forests have been preserved while they've still been being logged.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: January 15, 2003
Posts: 3698
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That's the worst idea I've ever heard. No wonder conservatives hate us so much.
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Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 160
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ok i have an idea... try living a life for a week to see what it would be like if deforestation was increased. sure there would be more wood and timber, but when you cut then down and do not replant any more trees (and dont even try to say that lumber companies do this because they most definitely do NOT no matter what crappy excuse you can make up) ok so dont use paper towels, dont go in your house or any other buildings, don't climb trees, enjoy shade, rake leaves and jump into the pile (god forbid) and oh i almost forgot DONT BREATHE at all either. ok tell me how it goes.
Equality and Justice for all
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Registered: July 26, 2004
Posts: 2891
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None of you can appreciate or even know what you're saying until you see the devastation going on in the rainforests--until you see how many animals died--how many homes were ruined. Even in America if you go along these areas it's depressing how such beautiful land went down the drain. I know we need it, but come on, let's be careful with our resources.
Evitere Les Contrefacons.
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Registered: January 15, 2003
Posts: 3698
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quote: why would they be shot or killed for moving?
Some terrorist groups over there are trying to prevent them from settling on land that the government wants.
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Registered: May 07, 2005
Posts: 1213
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quote: Originally posted by AcidGreen: I have a problem cutting down trees for no good reason
Who's cutting down trees for no reason? Could be a cool hobby though...
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Registered: June 02, 2004
Posts: 8337
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quote: the Phillipines where illegal logging is common, much of the land that has been cleared of trees turns into nothing but mud when it rains, and native people are forced to move because of it. And when they move, they're usually shot and killed.
why would they be shot or killed for moving?
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: January 15, 2003
Posts: 3698
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quote: no one is suggesting we cut down all the trees in the world. You are raving.
Why do I even talk? It's like I'm invisible. quote: If you cut down a forest to decorate your ugly houses, the animals that live in those trees die, the animals that eat the animals that live in the trees suffer and their population goes down. Lets assume the animals that eat the animals in the trees are large predators like snakes or wild cats. When their population goes down, rodent populations would go up, and farmers who live near cut forests would lose much of their crop. Also if you cut down a forest near a body of water like a river or a lake, the land would fall into the water which would alter the pH levels and the mineral balance in the water, causing fish and other aquatic life to die. The poeple and animals that rely on these fish to survive, end up suffering.
quote: In the Phillipines where illegal logging is common, much of the land that has been cleared of trees turns into nothing but mud when it rains, and native people are forced to move because of it. And when they move, they're usually shot and killed.
quote: Haiti has experienced so much deforestation that many of the people there are forced to live knee deep in mud when it rains and much of their freshwater supply has been contaminated by mudslides.
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Registered: July 08, 2005
Posts: 28
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I don't think it's only liberals who want to stop cutting them down, kitten... I have a problem cutting down trees for no good reason, but it's a fact of life that trees have to be cut down for us to live comfortably. This play on words is getting amusing, though.
I want something good to die for to make it beautiful to live.
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Registered: June 04, 2004
Posts: 3535
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no one is suggesting we cut down all the trees in the world. You are raving.
Honorable Senate Majority Leader (R-WI) "Liberals have gone stark-raving mad, yes,"- Euterpe
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Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 160
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you guys crack me up. Go ahead be my guest and cut down a bunch of trees and watch the world suffer even further and watch people die, animals die, the climate change, further erosion and loss of plant life, bad changes in the water cycle, not to mention cutting down beautiful organisms and other stuff... Be my guest...If you are that set on suicide I guess I really can't stop you. P.S. Marine16 hehe you are funny, you think you are not racist and that you aren't a bigot. haha thats a good one!! a sure knee-slapper!
Equality and Justice for all
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Registered: July 07, 2004
Posts: 457
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Brehon and EG: You said it. Want to join the NDLC? Kind of a counter offence I'd say... Anyways, think about it. TTFN, VOICE
Member of the NDLC*, est. 2005 (National Democratic-Liberal Coalition)
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