Not true, Kidd. It's the cow that's eating the plants and thus killing the insects and whatnot related to the plants. Humans just consume the cow. Any digressions on the cow's part don't transfer to the humans. Look, I'm not Buddhist, but this information came straight from the mouth of a Buddhist monk, so I'd assume she knew what she was talking about.

Whatever...I don't feel much like debating this subject, I just wanted to see what animal-peeps had to say.

I'm going to eat meat no matter what anyone tells me.

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Originally posted by WorthWaitingFor:
This may have already been covered (I haven't followed the animal rights threads or anything...) but...

An argument in favor of animal rights that I've heard many times over is that we shouldn't harm a defenseless, living creature.

Plants are also living, right?

So, if we use that argument for animals then we must use the same for plants and just...never eat?

This is something I have never understood about animal rights activists.

Plants need to be eaten. Their purpose is to have their fruit, seeds, etc eaten. This spreads the seeds and in doing so spreads life. They produce oxygen which helps the animals which helps the themselves reproduce.

You don't need to kill all of a plant to eat it.

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Originally posted by clpo13:
Worth, that reminds me of the time a Buddhist monk came to my school and spoke. Buddhists believe that all life is equal. Thus, they'd rather kill one cow to get some beef than kill many insects to get some organic carrots. This is not to say they don't eat vegetables, but the cost of life for vegetables is higher than for meat.

Just another point of view.

If you want to look at it that way. The cost of life for meat is far higher. Cows eat plants. By eating a cow you are eating both, instead of just plants.

Hmmm...interesting. I was just curious because, by using animal rights activists' logic, we wouldn't be eating anything living, including vegetation.

But I like the Buddhists' point of view...even though I'm still going to kill spiders...I hate spiders.

Worth, that reminds me of the time a Buddhist monk came to my school and spoke. Buddhists believe that all life is equal. Thus, they'd rather kill one cow to get some beef than kill many insects to get some organic carrots. This is not to say they don't eat vegetables, but the cost of life for vegetables is higher than for meat.

Just another point of view.

I say we start eating rocks!

This may have already been covered (I haven't followed the animal rights threads or anything...) but...

An argument in favor of animal rights that I've heard many times over is that we shouldn't harm a defenseless, living creature.

Plants are also living, right?

So, if we use that argument for animals then we must use the same for plants and just...never eat?

This is something I have never understood about animal rights activists.

Can I just say I love animals but I think it is sad when we as Americans think about animals before we do People. We have more animal shelters than we do shelters for abused women and children!! Which is sad since many of them are the next generation which will take care of us all when we get older.

Wow this is just a little bit one sided.

good point!
no, i am not anti-christ but i dont see how some people just say "oh well that's against god's word so whoever goes against him will be doomed for eternity"...if that's the only reason why you should be against something...say, gay marriages, i think you should get some evidence to support your explanation.

I was agreeing with you sporty, until you used the bible.

1. The bible's teachings won't stand as a justification infront of non-christians.

2. In the bible they sacrificed animals and ate meat, so hpow could they say "don't eat meat"? If God did not want animals to be eaten, I don't think there would be biblical stories of how he provided fish for people. Fish are animals.

And I also believe that eating animals is natural. Wild animals do it, so we shouldn't stop ourselves from doing it. It's only natural for animals higher on the food chain to eat those organisms below it, and that is what humans do.

Ha. Funny you should ask. I jibber jabber on about this (esp. while my family or bf eats steak, cause it grosses them out). I personally am a vegetarian. I believe animals have rights. Hey. Think of it this way. Did you know that when the Nazis slaughtered all of those minorites, primarily Jews (and yes I can diss on those Germans, cause I am a German, although I'm Lutheran...) that they took and skinned some of them. They made lampshades from their skins. They removed their teeth. They did horrible and terrifying things to these people. They justified it. WE DO WORSE THINGS TO OUR FELLOW CREATURES and justify it all the time. It's in the 10 Commandments..."Thou shalt not kill"--there were no "unless or in case of". You just shouldn't kill. It's so friggin plain and simple. My goodness and we get worked up over friggin child abuse? Give me a freekin break. These animals--this is not a "meal to them" YOUR MEAT, LEATHER, MEAL...IS NOT A JOKE. TO ANIMALS IT IS LIFE ITSELF. And when you consider that...it's like..."well, how many animals have you slaughtered like a freekin Nazi today?"

GoLeafs- Do you eat meat? Then animals have a point in living for your cause. I myself am vegetarian and hold all living creatures at the same level (An ant is equal to a human in life worth). Do you have any pets? If you do, would you miss them? Have you ever admired a picture of any sort of animal? Animals are not dumb and they have an important role in all of our lives.

And just to let you know, humans are animals too, so why don't we all just drop off the planet.

aniamls are dumb they have no point in living
humans should be used for testing too

I think it real neat someone came up with a way to protect animals because I have a ferret and I dont think there are alot of them around plus if he got sick or something i dont where i could turn because as far as i know there isnt a ferret doctor in Columbus and that sometimes worrys me

We humans have rights and are classified as animals. Therefor; ALL animals should have rights. Not just humans. Before I consider knocking out hunting and giving animals rights, I would consider changing the law that states "animals are of property".

Hunting. Generally, I am not against it. Everything hunts.

Humans hunt animals, its ok. When humans hunt other humans (animals) its not ok.? I believe creature-animals have the same fear as we do. They sense fear, we see it. Not much of a difference there. Everything in nature hunts. Everything happens for a reason.

Hunting for survival is necessary.
Hunting to recieve trophies while you mount a head of a corpse, on the other hand, is NOT ok.

Some animals are harmless,and some attack people but animals have lives too,and you can't be killing them .I have an animal my self and I care about it alot even though it scratches me alot,and its very wrong to kill animals like snakes,dogs,cats and so on and so on . Think about it what if you were a bird would you like to be shot at.This is a lesson treat people,and animals how you would want to be treated.
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animals definatley have rights and should not be treated cruelly. i'm vegetarian, and i find how animals are treated in the meat industry (and other industrys, like circuses, leather, fur, and animal testing) totally disgusting, wrong, and inhumane.

i do believe that animals do have ore rights than they did years before. See how we have come up ways to live depent-free of animals we should learn to accept that and leave things such as fu alone.