I was incredibly suprised to see that I only got one hit searching for Darfur, Sudan, and Genocide on this site!! There is Genocide going on Sudan and something must be done to stop it. We must say "not this time!" instead of "Never Again." Nearly 400,000 people have already died!! And many many more are displaced.

Please read, discuss and aid the cause of stopping genocide in Sudan and anywhere else it may appear in the future.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING:
GO TO http://genocideinterventionfund.org/
Our organization is working to raise private funds to support the African Union peace keeping forces which are trying to provide security in Sudan and stop the Genocide as well as to push governments and others to take action.

I agree. I started a thread about Darfur some time ago too. Keep on spreading the awareness.

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Read the newspaper. Oh wait, that might be too hard. You'd spend all day looking up one word.[/QUOTE]

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Students, schools and individuals involved with the Genocide Intervention Fund working to support peace-keeping missions in Darfur have raised over $500,000 of their targeted $1 million so far since APril 6. The 100 Days campaign is over, but the need is still great. Have any NMers helped out on this project? Is there any way to jump in on the topic once again and help these students raise more money?

Though the scale of the conflict is not as great, WWII was a huge case of genocide, the worst the world has ever seen; Kosovo and Iraq were not much better. Why should Sudan be ignored? And the world should be involved elsewhere in the world where such issues arise, but the United States cannot possibly do it all.

Bushsupporter is right, these issues do have major security implications. Vietnam and Korea were proxy wars used to deter a Soviet threat during the cold war, WWI and WWII where global threats of domination, even the recent wars are threats of terror. These conflicts we continue to involve ourselves in are for the preservation not only of the United States, but of freedom and justice throughout the world.

The only reason you consider it "a joke" to compare what is occuring in Darfur to these other conflicts is because it remains centralized with no international ramifications, as of yet. Are we to sit back idly as citizens of the world and watch yet another conflict escalate to the point that it is uncontrolable, or do we intervene now, with broad international/multilateral support and stop such genocidical (sp/correct word?) tyranny abroad?

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These things have major world security implications, thats why. Things like this can inflame an entire region. That is why we intervened in Kosovo, Iraq twice, Vietnam, Korea, WWI, WWII and countless other wars.

If you were so truly concerned, you'd intervene in other places that need help as well. It's all hypocritical.

Also, it's a joke to compare WWI and WWII, Vietnam, and Korea to this. Honestly. That's like saying an eagle and a hummingbird are the same.

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I'm really into world issues and such, but I can't accept helping another country if my own has problems. That's like if a homeless person tried to take another home; he has no home, so he's really doing nothing.

These things have major world security implications, thats why. Things like this can inflame an entire region. That is why we intervened in Kosovo, Iraq twice, Vietnam, Korea, WWI, WWII and countless other wars.

Where the hell is the UN and where the hell are all of the liberals criticizing them for their absence in this conflict. Maybe they are in the same place they were when Yugoslavia broke up and turned into ethnic cleansing. Why do we even give them funding and money if we have to do everything anyway.

Celtic, I partially agree with you. I don't believe that the United States can help, militarily, in the Sudan. They are spread too thin in numerous other engagements which must be resolved before moving on, but I see no reason why the United Nations cannot get involved. At the very least (which seems to be what the U.N. is best at) they could pass a resolution, or put something on the table. Perhaps they have, and I am unaware.

As to your first option, I think that it should be approached in a manner in which the Iraq war is currently being approached (I am not attempting to debate the rationale of the Iraq war, only providing an analogy of ideals). If the United Nations could initally provide the manpower to help Sudan end the genocide, they could empower the "locals" to help solve their own problems, as it were.

You can either:
- kill all these people, which would just make you as low as them.
- fix your own problems beforehand helping others (my favorite).

And I've forgotten the rest.

I'm really into world issues and such, but I can't accept helping another country if my own has problems. That's like if a homeless person tried to take another home; he has no home, so he's really doing nothing.

Marine16 is right. Raising awarness with the common man will do no good. Throwing money into the situation will only feed the corrupt warlords in the region. The only language these people understand is force and the UN needs to step up, with broad support, and take action in this fight.

I have an idea, why doesn't thte UN get involved for a change. Why don;t they finally admit that there is really somehting that warrants a response and do somehting about it?

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Originally posted by daydreamer1190:
go to theonecampaign.org and check it out.

The ONE Campaign's fair trade policies will break the back of American traders.

i'm also glad you are an activist in the stopping of genocide in darfur.


my friend started a website to try to raise awareness for the genocide. it's called if-only.org. it's not completely up and running yet, but hopefully it will make an impact.

this year at school, i will be selling ribbons, wristbands, and t-shirts to raise money for the genocide intervention fund and studentsagainstgenocide.org and raise awareness for the genocide.

if one at a time we keep becoming more involved, the world will become a better place.

Thank you for noticing!!!! I found this great site, backed by celebrities about raising awareness and donating to Africa. go to theonecampaign.org and check it out. Also for more info, check out my post in the "war and terrorism"

To edit my reply to tastemykiss08's message. (I apparantly can't edit my post anymore)


I'd like to clarify that there is no racial aspect to the conflict as we concieve of it. Here is the difference as quoted from savedarfur.org I'm really sorry for the misrepresentation of the conflict. (My misrepresenation stems from the traditional distinction between Arab and African used in the US)

Arabs and Africans in Sudan: What’s the difference?
"It is only recently that the division between 'Arab' and 'African' has achieved its present level of political significance in Darfur. The distinction is not straightforward. The Islamic presence in Sudan as a whole originates from the Arabian peninsula: over centuries of Islamization many indigenous peoples in the Nile valley came to claim Arab ancestry, to speak Arabic rather than their own languages, and to embrace Arabic culture. Thus about half the inhabitants of northern Sudan (a term which includes western provinces such as Darfur) are, by their own definition, Arabs. Non-Arabs--who are generally physically indistinguishable--retain their indigenous languages, although Arabic is the lingua franca of the country. From this point of view Sudan can be said to be an Arab country in something like the sense that the United States is an Anglo-Saxon country."

John Ryle, "Disaster in Darfur," New York Review of Books (August 12, 2004)

It should be noted that virtually all parties in the Darfur conflict are Muslim.

As for ginger's request: (Sorry for the long post)

Yes, organize fundraisers, write letters, raise awareness and organize your friends or use existing groups such as Rotary Interact Clubs, Key Clubs, Community Service Clubs, Model UN Clubs and so on to help you.

Participate in the 100 Days of Action Campaign.

Here are places to go for more info (since i can't seem to remember how to make attachments)
[URL=
100]http://genocideinterventionfund.org/action/100days/]100 Days of Action Kit[/URL]

There's also a word file below on the message board with synopsis of both the genocideinterventionfund and the 100 Days of Action Campaign.

Plus: Since the 100 Days of Action Kits are more geared toward college students. Here are also some additional fundraising ideas and notes for High School students:

Movie Screening: Ask the principal or other figures if you can use the auditorium for one night. Make sure you also have the right A/V equipment i.e. projector with vcr or dvd player. If there are no projectors, consider a smaller event using a plain old TV. Ask your history or English departments to give students extra credit if they come to the screening. Since the films suggested in the kit are not out on video yet, consider another film that deals with genocide or just another school subject like a foreign film or a historical one (they don’t have to relate to genocide) and ask the corresponding department if they will sponsor the screening by giving their students extra credit for attending. This should greatly increase participation. And consider giving discounts to couples or pairs of people to encourage people to bring a friend.

Bracelets and your school district: In addition to the green Darfur bracelets mentioned in the kit also consider the baby blue “Cultivate Peace” bracelets from http://www.thehungersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites. These bracelets also contribute to humanitarian aid in Darfur and are cheaper to buy. Remember that you can also make your own ribbons instead of buying them. Consider reaching out to your community including your area middle and elementary schools and selling bracelets there or asking their student governments to participate in your fundraising projects.

Breakfast foods: Pick one day a week to sell donuts, croissants or other breakfast snacks to students, homerooms, teachers and administration. Ask homeroom teachers or first period teachers to buy them for their students. Maybe have them on Friday and try to get teachers to buy them for their students if they’ve been good during the week.

First to tastemykiss08's request.

The crisis in Sudan has many parts. There is the conflict between the government and the rebels in the south. There is currently a cease fire but it is not always upheld.

Then there is also the crisis in Darfur which is both a part of and seperate from the previously mentioned events. In Darfur the Janjaweed militia and members of the Sudanese government/military are killing, raping, burning villages and more. These attacks are race/ethnically based between the black African and lighter/white muslim populations. The death toll cannot be precisely calculated but is somewhat above 300,000 with about another two million people displaced from their homes and threatened by this crisis.

US Congress has deemed it a genocide and the UN has deemed it the greatest humanitarian crisis in the world but security and humanitarian aid are not being properly funded.

This is just a brief overview search online and go to genocideinterventionfund.org for more info.

Read the newspaper. Oh wait, that might be too hard. You'd spend all day looking up one word.