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Picture of Maya
Registered: November 27, 2004
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Originally posted by DrStrangelove:
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I wasn't trying to start an argument with this issue but was just trying to point out that it's very unconscious and egocentric.


No it's common practice all over the friggin world. When ANYONE ANYWHERE reffers to "Americans", they are, 99.9% of the time, talking about the United States of America. Or do you think the islamic fanatics are talking about Belize when they're chanting "Death to America." ?

So you calling it "egocentric" is a crock. Get over your nitpicking political correctness.



Bushsupporter said:

"This of course is not an educated argument, but a childish and very poorly though out plan to derail the President, who was elected by a majority of America."

Why do you think I've never said anything when people talk about themselves as "Americans"? I realize that's just the normal way of talking of most US Americans(even though I still think it's unconscious) but I just had to respond to that statement. The majority of AMERICA? what?... So common' give me a brake and read before you respond next time.


Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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I wasn't trying to start an argument with this issue but was just trying to point out that it's very unconscious and egocentric.


No it's common practice all over the friggin world. When ANYONE ANYWHERE reffers to "Americans", they are, 99.9% of the time, talking about the United States of America. Or do you think the islamic fanatics are talking about Belize when they're chanting "Death to America." ?

So you calling it "egocentric" is a crock. Get over your nitpicking political correctness.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: January 12, 2005
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OGM this is so stupdi!!!!!!!!!!!!! i meen it has a curzy word in da name! and hu doesnt lyke iraq war!? prezbushj startd it & he'z smart ho y dnt we just trt him?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????!?!@?????????????$$$$$$$$$$$$
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And PLEASE could you stop refering to the US as AMERICA? It is very egocentric. You see, there are two American continents(North America and South America) and therefore many Americans who are not US Americans, so it's very unconscious to refer to the USA as America.



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This is off topic, but it has to be said: This country is the United States of America. No one else calls themselves Americans, just us. No one says "I live in America" except the people who live in the US. My roomate freshman year of college is from Mexico and says that your claim is idiotic and false.


You refered to your Mexican roomate but I know LOTS of people who do not see it that way(from Central and South America). What was false in my claim? Are there not Americans who are not from the US(even if they don't refer to themselves as Americans)? I wasn't trying to start an argument with this issue but was just trying to point out that it's very unconscious and egocentric.


Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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You see, there are two American continents(North America and South America) and therefore many Americans who are not US Americans, so it's very unconscious to refer to the USA as America.


South America stole our name!
Lets drop the big one, there'll be no one left to blame us.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: September 19, 2001
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This is off topic, but it has to be said: This country is the United States of America. No one else calls themselves Americans, just us. No one says "I live in America" except the people who live in the US. My roomate freshman year of college is from Mexico and says that your claim is idiotic and false.

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It's hard not to curse when talking about a cheating son of a *****(Bush)...

Cute and very mature. You have definatley changed my mind with that superior logic.


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
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Strangelove is right. I saw someone on "Hannity and Colmes" who didn't even have the decency to put on a nice shirt or do his hair talking about this. This is just silly. If everyone did this, which would of course be your goal, waiters would make no money for instance. This only hurts the little guy that liberals claim to care about soo much. I will be there on inauguration and plan to spend a whole lot of money that day to counter-act the maybe seven people who will participate in this "not-one-damn-dime-day." It is classic that the liberals have to throw curses in their slogans. I couldn't even say this around my 7 yr old brother, because I don't think it is ok to curse around children, and it is stupid to try and make an educated argument while cursing. This of course is not an educated argument, but a childish and very poorly though out plan to derail the President, who was elected by a majority of America. How this is going to hurt him has yet to be explained to me. "No left or right wing agenda"??? I don't think so. This is a transparent far left agenda. America doesn't respect these protests and boycotts and that is why the left will continue to lose. Get over it, you lost. Spend more money and time on trying to get elected rather than support boycotts tat will not acheive your goal, but just hurt innocents. "Liberals don't buy, children die. Rah, rah, rah."


It's hard not to curse when talking about a cheating son of a *****(Bush)... And PLEASE could you stop refering to the US as AMERICA? It is very egocentric. You see, there are two American continents(North America and South America) and therefore many Americans who are not US Americans, so it's very unconscious to refer to the USA as America.


Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Strangelove is right. I saw someone on "Hannity and Colmes" who didn't even have the decency to put on a nice shirt or do his hair talking about this. This is just silly. If everyone did this, which would of course be your goal, waiters would make no money for instance. This only hurts the little guy that liberals claim to care about soo much. I will be there on inauguration and plan to spend a whole lot of money that day to counter-act the maybe seven people who will participate in this "not-one-damn-dime-day." It is classic that the liberals have to throw curses in their slogans. I couldn't even say this around my 7 yr old brother, because I don't think it is ok to curse around children, and it is stupid to try and make an educated argument while cursing. This of course is not an educated argument, but a childish and very poorly though out plan to derail the President, who was elected by a majority of America. How this is going to hurt him has yet to be explained to me. "No left or right wing agenda"??? I don't think so. This is a transparent far left agenda. America doesn't respect these protests and boycotts and that is why the left will continue to lose. Get over it, you lost. Spend more money and time on trying to get elected rather than support boycotts tat will not acheive your goal, but just hurt innocents. "Liberals don't buy, children die. Rah, rah, rah."


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
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Registered: November 30, 2004
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It might seem communist to Ohiogirl because it's the typical anti-buisness, anti-borgoursie, anti-American protest buisness that the lunatic fringe typicall puts out. I wouldn't desrcribe it as "communist", however.
Yeah, that's why I said "kid of sounds communist." It does seem a little communist in my opinion. Sorry for the confusion everyone.


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Registered: January 02, 2005
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OKKKKKKK!!!!! So you all like getting trade centers destroyed! How do you know that if we withdraw our troops that we want get attacked again.
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It's a nice idea, but it's rather irrelevant to the war.


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Registered: March 13, 2002
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Originally posted by WorthWaitingFor:
The only reason why I think this is kinda dumb---at least for my age group---is because I don't spend "one damn dime" almost every day. I'm poor and broke and rarely spend money, even when I have it. I usually save it. So I guess I oppose the war every day of my life...


This is why I feel like going to buy something fairly expensive on the 20th. I'll counter-act most everyone on youthnoise that decides to do this, completely voiding their protest.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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The only reason why I think this is kinda dumb---at least for my age group---is because I don't spend "one damn dime" almost every day. I'm poor and broke and rarely spend money, even when I have it. I usually save it. So I guess I oppose the war every day of my life...


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I will most definately be participating in Not-One-Damn-Dime-Day. Not one more damn dime of mine is going into this war, or any future wars that Bush decides to start.



How does buying common products contribute in any signifigant way to the war effort? More importantly, you say that no more of your money is going into the war. Does this mean you're not going to buy any products after the date also?
Again, this is one of the least creative, least effective, and most moronic protests to date.

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It might seem communist to Ohiogirl because it's the typical anti-buisness, anti-borgoursie, anti-American protest buisness that the lunatic fringe typicall puts out. I wouldn't desrcribe it as "communist", however.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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I will most definately be participating in Not-One-Damn-Dime-Day. Not one more damn dime of mine is going into this war, or any future wars that Bush decides to start.

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It sort of sounds like a good idea to me but then again I also think that it sounds kind of communist.


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It sort of sounds like a good idea to me but then again I also think that it sounds kind of communist.


"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
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Yes, lets hurt small buisnesses and the employees of every company in America, even those who didn't vote for Bush or supported the war. That's a great way to "protest".


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: January 11, 2005
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I think this is great!


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