Originally posted by depressedwavemaster: That is not what I'm saying. ****!!!!
Speaking out for equal rights is not bad, nor is it flaunting! You ignore what I say and try to make me out to be homophobic! My ****ing brother is gay! Do you think I have the capacity to be homophobic if my own kin fits in that group???
depressed: Take a deep breath in and out *In* and *out* calm down...its okay...
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"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." - James Madison
Speaking out for equal rights is not bad, nor is it flaunting! You ignore what I say and try to make me out to be homophobic! My ****ing brother is gay! Do you think I have the capacity to be homophobic if my own kin fits in that group???
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None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
Perhaps. And perhaps we should ban all forms of personal expression because some people will always be offended. Gays will always be hated regardless of whether they flaunt it or not. But to speak out for equal rights...well, it worked for the other minorities, did it not? Imagine if blacks hadn't had their Civil Rights movement. Imagine if they hadn't flaunted their pride. We'd still be stuck with Jim Crow laws. Blacks demanded acceptance and they got it. How are gays any different?
If you can't see it you're either blind, prejudice or just plain stupid. By having annual "gay pride" parades and the "day of silence," it is saying their popular motto, "We're here, and we're queer." Is it not? One cannot deny that. To do so would be sheer ignorance. By demanding homosexual people be accepted, they are causing what they fear, to become a reality. People are hating them. When someone is presented with the phrase, "I'm right and you're wrong," they are repelled and they fight against it. Just live your normal life and there will be acceptance! Flaunt it in front of the heterosexual community and you will be killed. That is simply the truth.
None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." - James Madison
You don't fight homophobia by pushing homosexuality in their ****ing faces. Even I get tired of that after I see it for more than six seconds. You fight homophobia by showing everyone else you're real people. They can't see your individuality through all the waving flags of rainbow triangles. It's easier to dehumanize you that way. People can be dumb sometime. Yes, you.
None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
and that is three points fro brehon and in one post to! I suggest you lot listen to him he seems to be acting as the voice of reason for this wacked out thread
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
your right. they don't deserve your patience. but give it to them anyway. once you start yelling you will become the thing you hate.
they want you to yell. they want to to scream.
and don't worry. reactionary is part of the group that quotes every word in an attempt to prove correct things false. he thinks that if he breaks a long post into very short quotes that he can break them apart. so instead of seeing the whole picture people are trying to say, he tries to just fill up space.
West wing quote time:
"We all need some therapy, because somebody came along and said "liberal" means soft on crime, soft on drugs, soft on Communism, soft on defense, and we're gonna tax you back to the Stone Age because people shouldn't have to go to work if they don't want to.
And instead of saying "Well, excuse me, you right-wing, reactionary, xenophobic, homophobic, anti-education, anti-choice, pro-gun, 'Leave it to Beaver' trip back to the fifties," we cowered in the corner and said "Please, don't hurt me." No more."
Lets have two sides what do you say. Whats funny is we "liberals" all don't go in the bigoted posts and try and rip them a new *******. which would be so pathetically easy since conservatives have no platform besides hate and war.
so instead of having meaningful debate: reactionary and his bunch just quote people, saying WE dont use facts, we don't quote sources and we mispell things. give us a break. lets get on to real debate.
i love even more how they think posts that announce some good cause are FOR DEBATE. they aren't.
they are people who are interested in that cause or issue.
if you disagree: 1. write your own damn post 2. make a site 3. promote your cause.
you are being incredibly lazy ripping on people who are promoting a cause.
Then go somewhere else. Find another forum where your hateful comments are tolerated and accepted.
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Yes, someday, you too can be number one!
That is just so disrespectful and unfair. Anyone with half a brain can see that.
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wow, I see youre all for human rights...
Who the hell said I was? Stop stereotyping me.
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Try to be the bigger person in an argument
That makes me laugh. A lot. I have been the bigger person in several arguments for a while now and I'm getting sick of it. All of you conservative retards keep b*tching and moaning about me as a liberal and nothing else. I try to keep arguments with you guys clean and chock full of information for you to read. Yet you all obviously ignore everything I have to say and continue to go off on me about my being a liberal. I would give anything to be able to hold a debate with a conservative christian with a maturity level that would allow them to be open minded and intelligent. Throwing around insults and promoting violence towards gay people is sickening. If you were close to losing someone dear to you because of hate like this you'd see why I'm so upset.
Originally posted by bella123: Uh...What did reactionary do?
Exercised my right to free speech. Apparently only free liberal speech is tolerated.
amen reactionary! haha...
"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." - James Madison
Equally qualified lesbians will earn 14% less than their straight female counterparts due to bias.
okay, I dont really care about everything else you put in there, but where did you find this? You cant use the excuse that someones a lesbian is why they make less than other women - in their eyes they might be as qualified, but they might actually may not be to their employer.
"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." - James Madison
Just because some of us aren't gay or lesbian doesn't mean we're homophobic. Maybe you should have thought about titling this "Call to action against Homophobia."
Reactionary, your imaturity comes across clearly as you are on this thread to show off some form of falacy-like redneck-being when you don't agree with it.
If you don't agree with gay people, don't go to gay parades, don't watch TV (PORN INCLUDED) with gay people of any form, and refuse to buy any gay rubber bracelet. I dislike conservatives but I don't rejoice when they are killed, geez.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
And I'm just being sarcastic so dont take this the wrong way...
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I'd send you a flaming cup of murder. I'd wrap it up in a box with a pretty bow, send it to your current residence, and have it engulf you in the most painful form of death imaginable.
wow, I see youre all for human rights...
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I used to be christian and I know without a doubt that God is not reserving a place in heaven for you. See you in Hell.
I'm sorry, but I'll listen (and laugh) to yall arguing, but never tell someone they arent going to Heaven. You have no right to judge that and its just ignorant and disrespectful. Try to be the bigger person in an argument - even God said it was like burning hot coals over your enemies head.
"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." - James Madison
Ok reactionary, I tried to be nice to you before today, but I can obviously tell you're trying to purposely tick me off. Well if you want to dish it out, I'll gladly serve it back to you.
Note: If my typing is crappy, I'm sorry. It's hard to see when you're cryinglike a baby.
First of all let's get one thing straight, I really and honestly don't care if you are against gay rights and all that crap, because that's your opinion and everyone has a right to have an opinion. But there is a fine line between having an opinion and just being a jerk. I can certainly be a jerk too if you want. But considering the way you've been acting since you've been here, I think you want me to be a jerk. If it were possible, I'd send you a flaming cup of murder. I'd wrap it up in a box with a pretty bow, send it to your current residence, and have it engulf you in the most painful form of death imaginable. But I can't so I sincerely apologize.
I have gay friends, who I love dearly. I don't support gay rights solely because I know them. I'm smarter than that. I support gay rights because I read like a machine and I'm open to everyone's thoughts and ideas. When someone like you comes along and supports insults and violence against them, I lose it. Dan, is like my brother. I would die fighting for him. Hell, I'd take a bullet for him. That is why I can't tolerate your "opinions". Losing him because of your hurtful comments wpould be the end of me. All I want is for him and his friends to live happily without receiving death threats from people like you. I don't care about me at all. His happiness and safety is all that matters. So, with that out of the way, I just have to say that you're a(n) [insert nasty expletive]. I really would fight you if I could. I'd fight you, and your friends. I don't support fighting but when the adrenaline starts flowing, bad things happen. Especially near the groin area. I used to be christian and I know without a doubt that God is not reserving a place in heaven for you. See you in Hell.
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"Better to fight for something than to live for nothing." -Patton
You're not fighting for anything. You're just being an immature idiot. Grow up.
This is really taking a toll on me. I need a break.
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