Bushsupporter.
Your arguement that there is either a yes or no answer, falls under the False Dilemma fallacy, and is not logical.

I’m not afraid to answer it. I have answered it 3 times already. I DO NOT CARE. Why are you so incapable of understanding that? If the law was abolished I WOULD NOT CARE.

It is such a simple question, I don't know why you are afraid to answer it.

So, if there was a law that passed that abolished the drinking and smoking ages it would be ok with you. Can you answer this, the most broad question I have ever posed?

I told you that I wouldn’t care either way. I gave you my answer. You don’t need to make up my answer.

According to your past statements, I will answer for you: yes you would support abolishing the age limit for alcohol and tobacco.

There isn’t always a yes or no answer. I don’t care if there is an age limit or not. I can’t give an opinion if I don’t care.

See if it is possible for you to answer a question with a yes or no. Would you be in support of abolishing the drinking and smoking age?

I think it doesn't matter.

Both arguments are flawed. Get over it.

Kids who want to drink will and kids who don't won't. No matter what the law says.

I'm just saying that being 18 (or 22 for that matter) does not instantly make people paragons of intelligence and virtue, in fact they remain just as stupid or just as smart as when they were a year younger

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oh yes because adults obviously make much better choices than we do

You're right. I am agreeing with you. I think we should get rid of the drinking age and let kids of any age drink. And smoke for that matter. Good proposal.

oh yes because adults obviously make much better choices than we do
hell adults make the same choices to drink, smoke, eat poorly and what not that teens do, does it make it any less bad because they happen to be over 18?

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Yeah, but there are also kids who might not go out of there way to get alcohol, but if all their friends can get it, they'll try it because everyone else has.

Exactly what I was going to say.

So I guess we should have no drinking or smoking age since people will do it anyway. Everyone should be able to drink, because kids make awesome choices for thier lives.

To me it seems the minimum drinking age is just a screen that keeps those who are totally against breaking laws from doing it. Then again, I don't like to break laws, but I had a really bad drinking problem from when I was about 15 up until June of this year. From what I've seen in my travels, countries with really low purchase and drinking ages don't have as big of a problem as America does with drunk teens, because they grow up around it and it isn't anything special or exciting because you can get it anywhere.

Reminds me of a keychain I saw at Spencer's today that says "Finally 21, Now I Can Do Everything I've Been Doing Since I was 15 Legally!"

it's all choices, just because you remove a legal barrier doesn't mean people are suddenly gonna flip their choices and become booze hounds

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Originally posted by Kate127:

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Not everyone wants to drink and those who do will.

Yeah, but there are also kids who might not go out of there way to get alcohol, but if all their friends can get it, they'll try it because everyone else has.

That isn't really relevant to the drinking age. If one their friends can get it (You assume that none of them can), they'll try it because everyone else has. It's the same with Marijuana. Simply because it's illegal, won't stop someone from casually taking it with their friends. (It may have somewhat of a deturrent effect, sure, but overall, I do not see it as a major impact.)

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Not everyone wants to drink and those who do will.

Yeah, but there are also kids who might not go out of there way to get alcohol, but if all their friends can get it, they'll try it because everyone else has.

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If 18 year olds could buy liquor, 15 year lods who had 18 year old friends could get liquor. Is this an OK consequence.

What was going through your head when you thought this was a valid argument?

Clpo is right. Not everyone wants to drink and those who do will.

As it is, fifteen-year-olds with 21-year-old friends can get alcohol.

The age limit doesn't matter. Anyone who wants liquor can theoretically get it. The same goes for cigarettes. Lowering the age limit will do little to increase either drinking or smoking because those who want to drink or smoke will and can even now.

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Even with the age limit as it is, any underage teen who seriously wants to get a beer can, provided they somehow know someone over 21, whether that person be a friend, a friend's friend, or so on.

If 18 year olds could buy liquor, 15 year lods who had 18 year old friends could get liquor. Is this an OK consequence.

A related question, should we lower the smoking age because underage kids can get tobacco if they have "of age" friends? NO, the argument that kids will do it anyway would allow kids to get thier hands on anything.