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Picture of LinkinParkGurl88
Registered: December 19, 2003
Posts: 163
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No offense to ALL Christians but I think a lot of people know who I'm talking about.
Anyway, why is it that some Christians think that if you are not a Christian, your morals are suddenly lower than theirs? I read a lot of things from some Christian teens saying how they're "Christian Morals help them stay 'pure'" and all this other crap. I just don't get it. I may be Agnostic but that doesn't mean my morals are low.


**Courtney**Lesbian and Proud**Sorry,Christianity is not my preferred method of suicide and I don't like organized stupidity.
Picture of Barkid
Registered: November 22, 2004
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where do you think the basis of your morals came from Jazzey? Did it just "spring" into society that these things were wrong? The ten commandments is pretty much what we follow in western society except for the part about worshipping other gods. Religion defines morality, because science can't.


"Mac, you ever been in love?" - "No, I've been a bartender all my life."
Picture of jazzeykitten
Registered: June 03, 2004
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I have no religion, yet I'd be willing to bet that my morals are "higher" than half of your typical bible-thumping Christians. That my friends, is part of why I won't touch Christianity even with a cooking mitten on.


1-We are all born originals - why is it so many of us die copies? 2- Life is tough... it's tougher if you're stupid.
Picture of Korith
Registered: August 09, 2003
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Originally posted by CelticNewAger:
THey think so because they are educated on the belief that you have to be like them to be right, therefore, ignorance.


Who are you talking about here?


"I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others, ascribing to himself every human excellence, and believing he never claimed any other." -Thomas Jefferson
Picture of CelticNewAger
Registered: December 11, 2003
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THey think so because they are educated on the belief that you have to be like them to be right, therefore, ignorance.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
Picture of Barkid
Registered: November 22, 2004
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The question then is how does one define "Morals".
If you say that you have good morals because you don't murder people or sleep with random people where did you get the idea that that is that correct way to live... the correct answer is religion. You may not be religious but if you were raised in America you were probably raised with Christian morals: no stealing, no killing, no sexing, etc.


"Mac, you ever been in love?" - "No, I've been a bartender all my life."
Picture of dudeishereihope
Registered: December 09, 2004
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Because their are many misguided Christians out there that believe that their religion seperates them with the rest of humanitiy. I know for a fact that I'm guilty of this more often than I would ever like to be. People can sometimes see themselves as elevated because they htink they know somthing that the rest of the world doesn't, and it is very depressive to hear from people that are scared away by ignorant Christians. We're all human beings, and one of the keys of life is discovering that your better than no one.
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Registered: December 03, 2004
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I find, that in this case I can't really generalize all Christians into the stereotype thats being discussed, but I think, like in many other cases, if you meet one or two people who are like that they are the ones who stand out. There are a few people like that in my Law class, and all hell breaks loose when we start to discuss anything that has to do with morals, euthinasia, abortion, etc. Most people I know don't like to be preached to, even if they are religious themselves.


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Picture of Bogey
Registered: May 19, 2004
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Why do Christians think its ok to kill little brown people in poor countries?

Hmmm...I'm going to go on reason and say that the don't think it is okay.


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Because, Bauhaus, god told them to do so! And because, they are spreading the LOVE of god!


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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Why do Christians think its ok to kill little brown people in poor countries?


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Picture of depressedwavemaster
Registered: June 09, 2003
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but in my opinion, religion is just to fill in the gaps of what science can't prove.
The same could be said about science. I think religon is just another road map who's destination lies at the same spring as science. They just travel at different speeds and'll take a while to meet up, while followers of both maps will ceacelessly argue the minour details and never look at the similarities. Science asks what and religon asks who. Philosophy asks why. I'm sure there are so many other maps, too.


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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Registered: November 21, 2004
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I think it's sad that so many people use the bible as an excuse of being a good and moral person. Our school is smack dab in the middle of two Morman churches, and I swear to (non)God that they all hate me. I will tell them that I'm an atheist, and they give me the classic "deer in the headlights" look before ranting about how I'm going to hell. By the time they're done, I usually manage to slip away before they notice, but they act like because my beliefs in a higher power (or lackthereof) is not the same, then I'm going to go around "depurifying" myself.
~Liz


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Picture of northstar316
Registered: October 06, 2004
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religion is just to make people feel better about dieing, and to keep the nuts in line.


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Picture of bella123
Registered: July 26, 2004
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Exactly. Correct me if i'm wrong, but in my opinion, religion is just to fill in the gaps of what science can't prove.


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Registered: June 09, 2003
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Christians think that because they think/know their religon is the only way to Spiritual fufuilment, or to God. Others believe differentally, and that is where the argument of morals come in. Answer your question?


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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Registered: September 11, 2004
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Yea, I know what you're talking about. My family is christian. (Though I am not). But it's all about perspective. An atheist could be just as pricky about their morals as a christian could be. Peace out. Smile


"Drop out of school before your mind rots from our mediocre educational system" Frank Zappa
Picture of Nashira
Registered: September 14, 2004
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Hey LinkinParkGurl, i'm a 16 year old Christian chick, yet I know what you're talking about. The thing is, when Christians say that thier morals help them to 'stay pure', for example, they aren't saying that non-Christians aren't pure, but that if we follow the morals that line up with what we believe, we will stay pure. Peace chick


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Picture of LinkinParkGurl88
Registered: December 19, 2003
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On your thing about "drifting" from Christianity. I believe a lot of young "Christians" are like that. They only believe in God when something is wrong in their life or they need something. Most of the time, they don't believe in God or they cuss,drink,etc. Like one of my friends says "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian just like sitting in a garage doesn't make you a car."


**Courtney**Lesbian and Proud**Sorry,Christianity is not my preferred method of suicide and I don't like organized stupidity.
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Registered: December 01, 2003
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Well, it all depends on what you count as morals. Generally speaking, most of American morality is based on the Bible and other religious books (temperance, no premarital sex, no cursing, no homosexuality, etc.). I don't necessarily agree with all of what is considered "moral", but most of it seems to be a good idea. Plus, each religion seems to have things that it is stricter about controlling.

Like verticlexlimit, I was raised Christian but I'm drifting.

I guess what I'm trying to say by all of this is most of morality seems to be based on the Bible and if you are Christian, you follow the Bible more closely than people who aren't. Morality overlaps in a lot of other belief systems too. I'm not saying that other religions don't have these beliefs--I'm just saying that Christianity also contains them.

And also, just because you break the laws of the Christian religion or any religion doesn't mean you're a bad person. I think some things that keep us on the proverbial straight and narrow are simply human nature.

~Caro


"...true love is the best thing in the world, except for cough drops." --The Princess Bride, William Goldman
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