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Originally posted by EarthGoddess:

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. The only person allowed to enter is the prophet of the church. However, there are two chairs in there. Both chairs are equally worn.

Have you gone in there and witnessed how both chairs have become worn? Or did this prophet tell you? How do you know you're not being manipulated?

The thing about humans, all humans, is that we have a natural want for power. Even if it means lying and manipulating others to attain it. You might want to do an extensive background check on this "prophet", before you believe everything he says.

I haven't seen it, but a very good friend of mine who I would trust with my life went and saw it during cleaning period. Besides, I have perfect trust in this prophet. He is honest, I can tell you that. He has never told me to do anything that hasn't improved my life, others lives, or my out-look on life.

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If you want scientific proof, just read my Christian-made science book.

I don't have time to read a science book. Show me passages.[/QUOTE]

Okay, what subject. I'm not much into proving God, but I do have this book. What would you like proof on, and I'll see if he addresses it.

Because Christians follow the Bible, and if someone doesnt do somthing that Jesus says to do, they freak out and create a barrier.

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. The only person allowed to enter is the prophet of the church. However, there are two chairs in there. Both chairs are equally worn.

Have you gone in there and witnessed how both chairs have become worn? Or did this prophet tell you? How do you know you're not being manipulated?

The thing about humans, all humans, is that we have a natural want for power. Even if it means lying and manipulating others to attain it. You might want to do an extensive background check on this "prophet", before you believe everything he says.

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If you want scientific proof, just read my Christian-made science book.

I don't have time to read a science book. Show me passages.

I've noticed that a number of books proving the Bible true are indeed sound. For instance, The Science of God by Gerald Schroeder has a very persuasive chapter about the first six days. Most people take that to mean six 24 hour periods, right? Sure, somewhere in the Universe that holds true. However, time, as Einstein so eloquently put it, is relative. Whereas somewhere in the Universe 144 hours passed, on Earth, the 15.75 billion years since the inception of the Universe passed.

And also notice that the Bible doesn't say God created the sun, moon, plants, or animals. Instead, the sun and moon became visible on Day 4. They were there the whole time, but around a billion years ago (the middle of Day 4), the Earth's atmosphere became transparent, thus allowing the sun and moon to be seen. And the "Earth brought forth" plants and animals, implying natural evolution.

However, this does not neccessarily mean that the Bible is the word of God. I take it to mean that the writers of the Bible got their facts straight. But only in the first few verses of the first chapter of Genesis. I've yet to prove the rest of the Bible factually true, and I doubt if I ever will.

We are God's children.

But not children of God's followers.

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Originally posted by OneMomentAtATime:

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If you want scientific proof, just read my Christian-made science book. They're obsessed with proving God exists with science.

The Christian-made science book that's just going to magically appear at our houses so we can read it?

Exploring Creation with General Science, by Dr. Jay L. Wyle.

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If you want scientific proof, just read my Christian-made science book. They're obsessed with proving God exists with science.

Please notice the CHRITSIAN-MADE part of that.

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How very wrong you are, Celtic. He has come to Earth on more than one occaision, and spoken face to face with His Children. Granted, very few people have spoken face to face with God, but it does happen.

Is there any proof? Though a scientific book of god might say that, there is no evidence. And if god wanted people to honestly believe that, wouldn't he come to everyone personally?

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Well, I'm a Mormon, and there is a place in our temples that only one person is allowed to enter, except when the janitors clean it, at which time, it's undedicated, cleaned and re-dedicated. The only person allowed to enter is the prophet of the church. However, there are two chairs in there. Both chairs are equally worn.

And as Jenos said, the guy sits in a different chair each day. Or seeing that the janitors go in, maybe THEY sit on the chairs.

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If you want scientific proof, just read my Christian-made science book. They're obsessed with proving God exists with science.

The Christian-made science book that's just going to magically appear at our houses so we can read it?

I knew you would say that Jenos, but it's more complicated than that.

Heh, he just switches the chair he sits in every other day. A simple enough explanation.

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Originally posted by EarthGoddess:

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He has come to Earth on more than one occaision

Prove it. And don't use the bible. Give us scientific fact. I have yet to meet a Christian who could do that.

Well, I'm a Mormon, and there is a place in our temples that only one person is allowed to enter, except when the janitors clean it, at which time, it's undedicated, cleaned and re-dedicated. The only person allowed to enter is the prophet of the church. However, there are two chairs in there. Both chairs are equally worn.

You see, I don't use the Bible for everything, because, unlike most Christians, I believe in modern revelation.

If you want scientific proof, just read my Christian-made science book. They're obsessed with proving God exists with science.

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He has come to Earth on more than one occaision

Prove it. And don't use the bible. Give us scientific fact. I have yet to meet a Christian who could do that.

Then why has this god's face never been described? I can point to a number of verses in the Bible where his hands, legs, and even loins have been described, but no faces. Not even a mention of a beard.

How very wrong you are, Celtic. He has come to Earth on more than one occaision, and spoken face to face with His Children. Granted, very few people have spoken face to face with God, but it does happen.

God.

Never.

Has.

Told.

Anything.

To.

Anyone.

I'd like to say that though there are people who I think are going down the wrong path, I don't think it's Christian to hate anyone. I'm not going to say that there isn't people I hate, I'm not perfect, but there isn't anyone that God hates. He is sometimes disappointed in His children, and he's sometimes sad about their decisions and worried for their salvation, but he still loves every single person on earth.

Oy...

Good question, indeed.