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Registered: November 09, 2006
Posts: 144
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God is invisible yet we feel his presence. He cant directly answer us.. but through some circumstances He made his presence felt through some situations.. people.. events but wat if you had some bunch of questions that are still left unanswered by some of the well-educated people. Is really education a part of God's piece of mind..or may be He just doesnt use inteligent and rich people to really understand but CHOSE the Base things of this world?? (1Cor. 1:26-27) so wat would be your questions for God?
matt.13:16 But blesssed are your eyes for they see:and your ears, for they hear.
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Registered: November 09, 2006
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quote: You see orange, I don't see where you get your logic. Your statement at first, God is older than mankind, mankind is older than the bible, moses wrote the bible, therefore moses is a descendant of adam and eve. Technically this proves nothing since it is based on the assumption that Moses was writting history when he explained the creation story.
you jst got my point here, triss. Moses did write the account of creation though adam and eve were first made than him. it was through Moses that those books were written with the guide of God. the Book of Genesis have the seven days, but those seven days are not seven Earth days.. but million of years. Dinosaurs were made by God too. way even Adam and eve was created. the human like beings who were thought to be humans are not humans but are apes. now where is the missing link? i would not like to be a cousin of a monkey, eww. though they're adorable. but some humans behave lke animals. not just monkey behavior but like savage beasts who kill and murder and even massacre or even brutally raping children.
matt.13:16 But blesssed are your eyes for they see:and your ears, for they hear.
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Registered: February 27, 2003
Posts: 2217
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quote: Originally posted by ampmaster: quote: we're cousins with monkeys
but why drag congress in to this?
LMAO I've always thought the whole karma thing made sense, more sense than most other religious stuff anyway, even if I don't like how it supported the whole caste system.
"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13974
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quote: we're cousins with monkeys
but why drag congress in to this?
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: March 29, 2003
Posts: 2615
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is our life a refelcion of our karma from our past life or present? are we destined to do everything we do from biting our nails to typing this sentence this instant?
Dont let ur studies interfere with ur education!!!!!
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Registered: February 27, 2003
Posts: 2217
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Wow, he sounds like a really amazing guy. I've always wanted to take an in depth class on the Bible (and the Quran). I think it's really interesting...
"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: October 22, 2006
Posts: 2530
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quote: Anytime. The equivalent? How's that?
My Teen Sunday School teacher was a Bible Scholar, he invested most of his life to studying the Bible - went to Bible college, was a pastor and youth pastor once. His knowledge of the Bible was amazing, and he decided that he should teach us what he knew, which was a lot (I was in his class for 5 years). Even though I'm no longer a Christian I still respect him with everything I got.
J'irai bien.
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Registered: February 27, 2003
Posts: 2217
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Anytime.  The equivalent? How's that?
"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: October 22, 2006
Posts: 2530
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quote: You're good Triss.
Thanks  I might be cheating though. I have the equivilant of first year Bible college under my belt  But - Just so you are aware. I'm not a Christian, althought I do beleive in God.
J'irai bien.
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Registered: February 27, 2003
Posts: 2217
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You're good Triss. 
"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: October 22, 2006
Posts: 2530
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quote: But according to the Bible, the wirld is ony something like 6,000years old, which conflicts with the age of materials of space and earth. I was merely trying to point out the flaw in the book of genesis
Christians will use either the argument that current methodes on how to judge how old something is based on the assumption that the earth is billions of years old so it isn't trust worthy. Either that or they will state that God is God therefore its he could have made the Earth and everything in it the age it was when he created it. They will use Adam and Eve and all the animals as examples saying that they were created as adults therefore the Earth was probably created as a mature planet.
J'irai bien.
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Registered: February 27, 2003
Posts: 2217
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quote: Originally posted by ampmaster: quote: Meaning you really thing that we're all descended from them?
That of course would mean that we are all inbred hicks cause for all of us to get here from two people somebody had to do his sister quote: That's twice in the past 10 minutes that you've nearly made me spit tea all over my laptop.
may wanna look in to water proofing for that horsey
Water proofing is looking really good... and you stole my point amp! LOL Orange, may I point out that it is not physically possible for us to all be decedents of Adam and Eve? Ever heard of inbreeding? We'd have died out ages ago. That or have way more defects than we do. Now, I'm not hoping that the above facts will convert you (I don't think you have to take a literal translation to believe), I'm just trying to get you to understand some basic science here.
"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: June 14, 2006
Posts: 956
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But according to the Bible, the wirld is ony something like 6,000years old, which conflicts with the age of materials of space and earth. I was merely trying to point out the flaw in the book of genesis
Y to the V to the licious ... YVlicious....
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Registered: October 22, 2006
Posts: 2530
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quote: God is way older than man. and ,mankind is older than the Bible. Adam and eve were created first. Moses wrote the first four or five books of the Bible. so moses was the descendant of Adam and Eve. and yes, i believe that we are all descendants of Adam and eve. we may have different looks and physical characteristics, but if you scrape our skin off, we are brothers and sisters biologically.
You see orange, I don't see where you get your logic. Your statement at first, God is older than mankind, mankind is older than the bible, moses wrote the bible, therefore moses is a descendant of adam and eve. Technically this proves nothing since it is based on the assumption that Moses was writting history when he explained the creation story. Oh and techically if you scrape our skin off, you can find out we're cousins with monkeys  . But I would also like to state that the above statements may or may not be my actual beleifs, I'm just having fun poking holes into your arguemnt.
J'irai bien.
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Registered: January 22, 2005
Posts: 716
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quote: but if you scrape our skin off, we are brothers and sisters biologically.
Actually we are not, since biological brother or sisterhood is defined by our genes. And secondly, if we scraped our skin off we might just be in a cheap horror film.
Only simple and quiet words will ripen of themselves. For a whirlwind does not last a whole morning, nor does a sudden shower last the entire day.
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Registered: November 09, 2006
Posts: 144
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but Orange, your grammer makes me want to stab toasting forks in my eyes. - sorry, im no american , igues we are taught a different english grammar here in the manila. quote: That being said, you interpret the bible so literally
i dont interpret the Bible literally. i dont just poke eyes out if my eyes saw bad things or cut my off my hands coz i did some bad things. God is way older than man. and ,mankind is older than the Bible. Adam and eve were created first. Moses wrote the first four or five books of the Bible. so moses was the descendant of Adam and Eve. and yes, i believe that we are all descendants of Adam and eve. we may have different looks and physical characteristics, but if you scrape our skin off, we are brothers and sisters biologically.
matt.13:16 But blesssed are your eyes for they see:and your ears, for they hear.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13974
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quote: sorry about that, misinterpreted it, or took it to seriously I guess. No hard feelings here
s'all good mano quote: Meaning you really thing that we're all descended from them?
That of course would mean that we are all inbred hicks cause for all of us to get here from two people somebody had to do his sister quote: That's twice in the past 10 minutes that you've nearly made me spit tea all over my laptop.
may wanna look in to water proofing for that horsey
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: June 14, 2006
Posts: 956
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Ow...my brain hurts from reading this. Maybe its because my mum is an Englishbteacher, but Orange, your grammer makes me want to stab toasting forks in my eyes. That being said, you interpret the bible so literally. Do you also believe that the world is only as old as the Biblw says it is??
Y to the V to the licious ... YVlicious....
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Registered: October 22, 2006
Posts: 2530
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Actually I'll be living right near Vancouver during the winter games. lol. UBC is nice, but I go to UNBC - which is the University of NORTHERN British Columbia. Its a nice Campus. But it gets really cold.
J'irai bien.
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Registered: February 27, 2003
Posts: 2217
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Awesome, I've looked really hard at UBC in Vancouver. Say, can I stay with you for the next winter games? LOL JK Mostly....
"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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