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Registered: January 30, 2005
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cathloics,jews,christains, and muliums all belive in the same god right but all of them have different beliefs well if its the same god then why does people belive that its there religion thats right
(srry if my spellings off)
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Registered: March 19, 2003
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Thanks clpo i thought so too :P 
That might not make any sense but right now I'm too tired to explain it to you or to care .......
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Hehe, that was clever Banshee.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: March 19, 2003
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You know i used to ask the same questions in youth and got sent to the hall for "further discussion in private" Think about it we basically belive in the same concept but yet we've spent millenia fighting over it . All i can say is this : "Religiuos wars are fought over who has the btter imagenary friend."
That might not make any sense but right now I'm too tired to explain it to you or to care .......
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Registered: August 19, 2003
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In response to clpo13: I do know that that Torah is a Jewish text, it is the first five books of the old testament written by Moses. That said, Islam supposedly believes in the Torah, but inadvertantly changes geneologies to fit there belief system. Case in point: Judaism believes that God's promise comes to us by Isaac which is what is written in the Torah, and Islam changes the Torah to say that it is Ishmael that receives the blessing. And I am currently taking a course on religion myself, with quite a lot of information on things like Islam, Hinduism, and Catholocism. If you actually read the Qu'ran, you would see the deception in Islam. Too many things that are perverted to the extreme because of Muhammad's "revelations".
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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quote: First, the Torah is the old testament, but it is changed however Islam wants so that it fits with there beliefs.
If you are as "informed" on this topic as you say you are, you'd know that the Torah is not an Islamic document, but a Jewish. And I am currently taking a world religions class, so don't preach to me about reading up on the topic.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: May 03, 2003
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*Agrees with clpo*
I like these calm little moments before the storm.
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Registered: June 14, 2004
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I have discussed and agreed with clpo on this subject. Read his post for what are basically my beliefs as well. As for some differences. Well, I don't know that much about catholicism and muslims. But the main difference between Judaism and Christianity is just the fact that Jews only believe in the Old Testament part of the Bible. They believe the Messiah is yet to come. Christians believe he has already come (Jesus), risen, and will come again. Catholics are Christain. But different. That's really all I know about that.
Belief makes things real/Makes things feel, feel alright/Belief makes things true/Things like you, you and I
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Registered: August 19, 2003
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I don't want to sound insulting, but you guys really need to study these topics before you make anymore arguments on them. I have been going to a school to learn about these things, an every post on this page so far is completley misinformed. I don't have the time to address this fully, but I will say a few things. First, the Torah is the old testament, but it is changed however Islam wants so that it fits with there beliefs. The Qu-ran is a book of Muhammads "revelations" that as he grew older became more and more perverted. Muhammad was a sick man who by the end of his life had more that thirty wives, one of them being about eight years old. and he is the revered one of their faith. Catholicism has many similarities that Christianity does, but there are very few people who actually are devoted Catholics, most going on Holidays and things like that. The ones that are truly devoted are often time more Christian believing more Charismatic beliefs. But on the whole Catholicism is filled with Idolatry and worship of Mary. The pope just recently granted Mary a co-role of Saviourship with Jesus Christ, which the Bible strictly forbids in Acts 4:12 Acts 4:12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.”As for Judaism, they do not have a new testament, simply the old testament. I do not have any more tim right now so go and study before arguing these subjects, stick to what you know. Andby the way, it is not the same God in Islam, Allah is a moon God.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Heh. The Torah is the Old Testament of the Bible. I agree with Razor. I once ranted about this, but I forget where it was. I'll just copy and paste my rant in my Xanga blog. quote: What I found is that every major (and most minor) religions on Earth have three things in common: be good to yourself, be good to others, and make the world a nicer place. Sure, this sounds like the basic tenets of Christianity, but it's also the basis for Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Wicca, among others. I've deduced that there is one "god", if you will that speaks to all of us. How we interpret this god's words are up to our culture.
Christians believe that God sent his only son, Jesus, to save us all. Jesus preached peaceful resistance to agressiveness. Don't hurt other people, give your life to helping others, do unto others as you'd have them do unto you, etc.
The Jews believe that the savior hasn't come yet, but he will. The Ten Commandments given by God to Moses (Christians also have these) say: do not kill, use God's name in vain, ignore God, disrespect ones parents, murder, commit adultery, steal, give false testimony, or covet anything of one's neighbor. In essence, they say to be good.
In Islam, the savior was Mohammed, who came after Jesus (who, in the Muslims' eyes, was just another prophet). He also told people to avoid killing, stealing, etc.
For Buddhism, the big guy is the Buddha, not really a god, but still the founder of a religion. He was big on pacifism.
Hinduism has the whole karma and reincarnation thing. Basically, it forces you to do good. If you do something bad, you receive bad karma. Do something nice, you get good karma. When you die, it all adds up. If you have more bad than good, in your next life, you'll be born into a lower caste. More good than bad, you'll be born into a higher caste. Sort of a divine rewards system.
Even Wicca has the same thing going for it. Their Thirteen Goals of a Witch say pretty much the same about being good to yourself and others. Also, they have The Rule of Three, which states that if you use magic to curse or hurt someone else, whatever you did will happen to you, times three. Basically, it's a warning to not hurt others regardless of what they do to you.
So what happened over time is that as humans spread across the world, their surroundings not only shaped their skin color, language, and culture, it also changed they way they practiced religion. I may be grasping at straws, but it's the most logical thing I've heard regarding religion in a long time.
Now, I've learned more about different religions since that post. For instance, go to Spirituality and look for my Zoroastrianism post. I make comparisons between Zoroastrianism and most modern religions as well.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: January 13, 2005
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quote: Actually yes I have noticed. I made a remark like this on my xanga site actually. I think it's because different religions interpret the Bible differently.
That is by far the stupidest thing anyone has ever said. Since when did the Bible come before the Torah? When did the Qu'ran use the Bible init's holy writings??? You are off; way off.
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Registered: December 14, 2004
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I have often though about this. And razor, you are still forgetting polytheists, hindus, and buddhists. Who is to say that they are incorrect about their interpretation of god?
They'll like us when we win - Toby Ziegler.
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Registered: July 26, 2004
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Heh. Can we say 'segregation?' HM?
Evitere Les Contrefacons.
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Registered: May 03, 2003
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Catholicism is much different than Christianity.
I like these calm little moments before the storm.
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Registered: February 24, 2005
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Well first off you made the common mistake of taking catholic and christianity and making them separate! Though most catholics dont act christian, still they are one in the same... its kind of like denominations...christianity is the largest known religion, in christianty alone there are hundreds of diff. denomiations....people interperate diffrently, they dislike things a certain den. does(martin luther for ex.) So I guess to answer your question Ill break down the diff. religions you listed(mind that im doing this very lightly!) Jews: very similar to christianity except for the most part they dont believe in jesus as the messiah, they dont believe he was the son of God they dont believe he died on a cross etc..thats the major diffrence because christianity is based mainly upon Jesus and what hes done! Muslims:there god is allah not technically the same, they get that perception because theare both monotheistic(believing in one God) but alot of there general teachings are the same but diff. book, tech. diff. God, and alot of diff. practices...(praying twords mecca 2 a day etc.. I hope that helps abit! 
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Registered: November 30, 2004
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Actually yes I have noticed. I made a remark like this on my xanga site actually. I think it's because different religions interpret the Bible differently.
"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
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