God has a plan for everyone, and God made everyone perfect. Are people who get plastic surgery for any reason sinners?

No. Transsexuals get plastic surgery. That may be defeating my argument, but that at least isn't a sin. Plastic surgery isn't always to make you look better. In the previous instance, it's to correct a problem that God gave you to deal with. And this is peoploe's way of dealing.

It's not a sin.

Why do you even care whether or not it's a sin if you're not Christian yourself?

Its a sin. When you go to heaven and god sees you and said, hey thats not how i made you! what are you going to say? Um mr. god yeah I think you made a mistake about my body. Basically youre saying you are smarter than him.

Ok, I know and believe that we are God's perfect creations, created in His image. I love and respect that. But what if the way the Lord made us has forever been very physically and psychologically uncomfortable?

I am researching and considering a breast reduction surgery because since I was 12 years old I have been stared at, made comments to and about, and have had marks and cuts on my shoulders from my bra straps, in addition to upper back pain. I cannot find clothes that fit properly and are still modest- either the neck is stretched down too low, or the bottom hem of my shirt doesnt cover my full middle because of my size.

I know that the Lord created us exactly as He wanted to, but do you think it's a sin for me to have an operation to reduce what is the centerpoint of much physical and social problems?

Bella, since I know where your question is headed, I'll answer that question: 10-15 minutes. Unless I have to dress up nice for some reason or another.

Paralax, answer me this:

How long does it take you to get ready in the morning?

Just for kicks and giggles.

well, i don't think that plastic surgery to make you look better is very necessary cuz i don't think we should care about what people think of our looks

not everyone is perfect, God created us to have a choice of how we want to live, and we it's just in our nature to sin.

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What are you talking about? Of course it does. There is a specific verse I've heard in church all my life that states, "Your body is a temple for the Lord," or something to that effect. I can't remember the exact verse but if you would like me to find the book and number, I will.

what Paul meant when he said that was that we should not mess up our lives with sin, and we shouldn't let anyone hurt us through sin because God lives in us. but i'm not sure if he meant anything to do with plastic surgery

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Originally posted by QueenOfHell:
[QUOTE] Wow, Michael Jackson must be going to the deepest pit of hell...

if Michael Jackson goes to hell (which really isnt any of our judgment) it will be for bigger things...

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God has a plan for everyone, and God made everyone perfect. Are people who get plastic surgery for any reason sinners?

I'm not Christian or anything like that but I remember my friend's mom (religion teacher) saying that you can't *in simple terms* **** with your flesh, hair, nails etc. No piercings, tattoos, hair cuts, nail clippings, plastic surgery and other crap that does anything to the way you were born.

Wow, Michael Jackson must be going to the deepest pit of hell...

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What are you talking about? That has nothing to do with religion at all.

What are you talking about? Of course it does. There is a specific verse I've heard in church all my life that states, "Your body is a temple for the Lord," or something to that effect. I can't remember the exact verse but if you would like me to find the book and number, I will.

Most Christians see that as saying don't get plastic surgery and some even go as far as saying no piercings or tattoos either.

That's exactly what I said in the quote you posted only elaborated on. I said both the words "Christian", "sin", and the phrase, "your body is a temple," in that quote.

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so any thread made that questions christianty is christian bashing?

Not necessarily. But most of the threads created that question Christianity are written by non-Christians who post their questions in a negative and accusing context and who refuse to hear us out. They consistently assume we are going to answer negatively because we're just "stupid, naive Christians" or whatever and that's an assumption that isn't necessarily true.

And I know you're not Christian, bauhaus, and that you continually see Christianity is a farce and Christians as an annoyance (whether we're open-minded or not). So, pretty much any thread you create questioning Christianity seems to have a negative connotation to it.

Well, I don't cut my hair, but my nails I trim when they get longer than half an inch, because then they just get unruly. But yes clpo, I understand what you are saying now.

And I need glasses, without them I'm legally blind.

Jenos, if God supposedly made us "perfect" why should we ruin that perfection by getting rid of unwanted hair/nails, etc? After all, it was made as part of the perfection.

Essentially, I was just ridiculing the idea that plastic surgery is ruining your body because God made you who you are, blah, blah, blah. Oh, I forgot! No glasses or contacts either. Can't go around correcting "perfect" eyesight either. Nope.

Clpo, how is cutting hair and trimming nails plastic surgery? Some would consider that normal everyday hygeine.

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Again, this thread is created just to bash Christians.

so any thread made that questions christianty is christian bashing?

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That being said: Most Christians don't support plastic surgery, or piercings, or tattoos (your body is a temple, yadda, yadda, yadda). They don't say it's necessarily a sin (and by the way, technically these people are sinners---we all are) but they don't support it.

What are you talking about? That has nothing to do with religion at all.

I don't know where the Bible said everyone is perfect. If anything, we're all sinners according to Christianity, thus far from perfection.

Regarding plastic surgery, it's your life.

Again, this thread is created just to bash Christians. Again, you can't take separate verses from the Bible out of context. Again, stop doing this just to get negative feedback and to provoke people like jamaica. The rest of us (or at least, I) don't appreciate this.

That being said: Most Christians don't support plastic surgery, or piercings, or tattoos (your body is a temple, yadda, yadda, yadda). They don't say it's necessarily a sin (and by the way, technically these people are sinners---we all are) but they don't support it.

I don't support it but not because I'm Christian---because there are better, healthier ways to correct your body such as diet and exercise. Unless it is something medical, I don't think it's a good idea. Who cares what size your boobs are? But just because I don't support it doesn't mean I'm going to condemn them or anything.

Direct answer to your question? Yes, we are all sinners.

That sounds very Christian-y but according to our religion, it's true. If you're not Christian, you're not necessarily a sinner in my book. But if you are, you are. The majority of Christians say everyone is, whether or not they're Christian.

If that's the case, which I hope it's not, then we're all sinners for getting haircuts and trimming our nails. Oops.

Personally, I don't believe that God created humans bit by bit. Modern humans are a culmination of thousands of years of natural selection, and by no means are we perfect. However, I think people who get plastic surgery are too vain for their own good. If you can't live with what you've got...