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To me the Bible is all the truth I need.

Exactly. To YOU. That is because you beleive in it. But that doesn't mean that it proves it. Well, just wanted to get that point across.

To me the Bible is all the truth I need.

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But even if I believe in him, I'm still going to hell! Doesn't the Morningstar himself believe in and love the Lord?

I doubt the loves Him, but yes, he does believe in Him of course.

And lildrummergirl, God making the Earth is not proven by the Bible, it is merely stated. It is up to one to believe it is true.

Doubtful. But even if I believe in him, I'm still going to hell! Doesn't the Morningstar himself believe in and love the Lord?

I understand that you want me to verify it but there is nothing to verify that is my opinion and what I think is true God made the Earth so worship him. The truth is there and if the fact that I was directing it to Shade that had said the post before that God might have been behind the Big Bang may come into play on me not knowing what you want to verify....it was an idea and an opinion and the last time I checked you don't verify opinions you just have them. You try to prove them at times and I think I don't have to go into that considering mine was self-explanitory and the truth is in the statement. God made the earth is proven by the Bible...So worship him also in the Bible.


Shade that is good that you still believe in God hopefully one day you will come back to terms with Him.

As always, I refer you to www.seedmagazine.com to search for the information there. They have some excellent stuff regarding all branches of science.

drummer: I didn't ask for you to explain your statement, I asked for you to verify it. It sounds a tad far-fetched.

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It was an expansion of space itself, not an explosion per se. Therefore, the space was not unoccupied, it did not exist at all. Nothingness itself (as we know it, at least) expanded.

Ow, that hurt my head. No matter how hard I try, I can't understand the Big Band theory. So either nothing turned in to something or something turned in to more something....
*Walks off muttering and holding head*

Ah, you don't understand. It was God who did it. But I'm not one for getting into details over that sort of thing. I'll still believe in him; I couldn't even try to conjure a mental denial that huge... But I refuse to trust him, have faith in him, fear him, or worship him.

Finn:
I am pretty sure the statement is self-explanatory....but I could be wrong. I am saying that God made everything which is thw truth in the statement I am sorry that you didn't get that.

Shade:
I know you had a bad expirence and I know that I know nothing about it but is it possible that man screwed you over and you mistaked it for God???Whatever happen I am sorry

Well yes, I'm assuming there was. It's just that "explosion" or "bang" is a tad misleading.

Whatever happened, it apparently caused the split-second existence of a frictionless liquid composed entirely of free quarks.

Hopefully, when CERN goes online in the fall, we'll get some more definitive answers about the birth of this universe.

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Actually, the Big Bang is a misleading metaphorical term used by frustrated scientists to give the public a foggy idea as to what they're talking about.

Well, there had to have been some enormous release of energy to start that ball rolling, right? I don't know as much about the Big Bang as I probably should.

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Why not worship Him Shade.......He made everything around us including us and He gave us a gift that could save us.......Why not worship and give a little credit to your maker

Please verify the validity of that statement.

I already did, and got screwed for it. I learn from my mistakes. (shrugs) Sorry.

Why not worship Him Shade.......He made everything around us including us and He gave us a gift that could save us.......Why not worship and give a little credit to your maker

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The Big Bang essentially states that all of existence came from a single, minuscule, incredibly dense point of matter that expanded in a catastrophic explosion, spreading all the matter needed to form galaxies, suns, and planets into a vast, previously non-existent (or at least unoccupied) space. That still leaves the question as to where that single point of matter came from, but the Big Bang doesn't say anything about everything coming from nothing.

Actually, the Big Bang is a misleading metaphorical term used by frustrated scientists to give the public a foggy idea as to what they're talking about.

It was an expansion of space itself, not an explosion per se. Therefore, the space was not unoccupied, it did not exist at all. Nothingness itself (as we know it, at least) expanded. We have no idea what it expanded into, but there you go.

Eagle, it doesn't provide the answer. It also doesn't deny it. So to suggest that it means it came from nothing isn't true.

Yeah, he did do something like that, Drummerlady.. But should we worship him for it?

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YV:
It is okay and I understand

Thanks.

YV:
It is okay and I understand

Shade:

I do know about the Big Bang theory and I guess it could have fit in with creationism but I don't think it really fits in with what the Bible says. And for all I know God did caused it..............all I know is that God created the heavens and the Earth on the first day.........

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Faith, as I was describing it, is trust in something. I have faith that this chair will continue to hold me up. I have faith that the air I breathe is clean and unpoisoned. Shit like that. You don't need to nit pick with me.

Well... this isn't a universal definition of faith. Nor does by that definition make it any different than a belief.

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And question two, why couldn't God have caused said explosion to happen to set forth the series of events that would bring us here?

Why not? I don't believe the big bang theory itself is anti-creationalist. Which was my whole point from the beginning. That for the explosion to occur, there had to be something to explode. So where did that something come from?

And if the theory itself explains that question, perhaps you could enlighten us?

Eagle:

Great job bringing the dictionary out, Eagle. Unfortunately, I like to think from my heart and not from a book. Faith, as I was describing it, is trust in something. I have faith that this chair will continue to hold me up. I have faith that the air I breathe is clean and unpoisoned. Shit like that. You don't need to nit pick with me.

Also, a great textbook answer on the big bang. It doesn't prove or disprove anything, though.



DrummerLady:

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I think the Big Bang theory is kind of dumb no offense to everyone here that might believe it....but since most of you (not all) don't believe in God you probably think my beliefs are kind of dumb too.........but I just had to get that out there in the open.

Two questions. Do you know what the big bang is other than a huge explosion, and what people have said here on the boards? And question two, why couldn't God have caused said explosion to happen to set forth the series of events that would bring us here?