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Registered: January 23, 2007
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probalbly the dead sea scrolls, the undigging of random cities that were named in the bible that were thought not to exists. see i'm not an idiot. Basically though, its a bunch of christians trying to prove themeselves, so ofcourse its going to bias.
God isn't dead... he just never existed.
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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quote: The Bible is that source of truth and all the artifacts about the Bible have been proving it there has never been one dispoving it.
What artifacts are you referring to if you don't mind me asking?
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: January 19, 2007
Posts: 89
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All that stuff has and is happening to me. I don't lie, I get confused but don't lie. The Bible is that source of truth and all the artifacts about the Bible have been proving it there has never been one dispoving it.
~`~`~`~`Smiley Steven`~`~`~`~
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Registered: December 27, 2006
Posts: 3969
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Me too.
...a Wandering Star for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever...
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Registered: January 16, 2003
Posts: 12687
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quote: Aguagon's Avatar(that I happen to love): Faith means you don't know
As much as I respect Fina, I disagree.
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: February 05, 2005
Posts: 928
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quote: Okay I don't have blind faith. I have a gay cousin, best friends that are gay. I just found out yesterday that I have a 21 year old cousin that is my uncle's child that he didn't know about. I have 2 aunts and a uncle that were murdered (the aunts were by my cousin their son and the uncle was stuff in a frezer by one of his co-workers). I don't igorn any wrongs I just accept them as I said before. I realize stuff like my dad is never coming back and that I have to work to put food on the table. Sure my social life could better, but knowing that God is there to help people brings peace to mind. Though to my knowledge I don't have a relative that has been hit by a car or a transsexual. I think I have exprienced life and I don't think I have blind faith.
Sorry but I can't believe that, every religious fanatic that pops up on NoiseBoards has tons of gay friends, tons of bizzare relatives, and atleast one dead parent/brother/sister... I hope that didn't sound disrespectfull, it's just I've come across atleast 3 or 4 other people that say they are in the exact same situation, and i think it's to much of a coincidence. quote: I guess that's why the only thing left is faith.
Aguagon's Avatar(that I happen to love): Faith means you don't know
If god existed he'd be right winged
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Registered: January 16, 2003
Posts: 12687
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quote: Unfortunately, no. It's not the only holy text in this world.
True. quote: Ah, but how do I know the Bible is trustworthy? The only evidence I have of the Bible being true...is the Bible itself. I need something else to prove the Bible true before I'll trust the Bible to tell me about God.
I guess that's why the only thing left is faith.
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6040
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Even if I could read Coptic and Hebrew, I still wouldn't trust the Bible. For various reasons, of course.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: December 27, 2006
Posts: 3969
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Translations are as good as a lie, in my opinion.
...a Wandering Star for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever...
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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6040
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quote: Wait, wouldn't this questions be answered merely by reading the Bible?
Ah, but how do I know the Bible is trustworthy? The only evidence I have of the Bible being true...is the Bible itself. I need something else to prove the Bible true before I'll trust the Bible to tell me about God.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: December 27, 2006
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quote: Wait, wouldn't this questions be answered merely by reading the Bible?
Unfortunately, no. It's not the only holy text in this world. Being gay isn't a disorder, my friend. ( don't try to tell me I implied you said that, because you would obviously missing my point ) It's not the same thing as being ts. ( shrugs ) You seem to be following blindly to me. Ikki. Yahweh isn't genderless, the Source is. In typical biblical reference, that is. Personally, I don't know. I know a..err, sort of xian person who referred to Yahweh as a she, and he ( he just switches back and forth ). It doesn't really matter. Once you reach that level.. of godhood, I don't think gender really means that much! Heh. quote: Well obviously we are thinking of different Gods, my God is a SHE.
...a Wandering Star for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever...
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Registered: January 19, 2007
Posts: 89
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Okay
~`~`~`~`Smiley Steven`~`~`~`~
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Registered: November 27, 2004
Posts: 1321
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quote: Originally posted by lildrummergirl9:
I don't really think it matters anyways, but I have just always thought God was a He since most the time it says He or Him
Well obviously we are thinking of different Gods, my God is a SHE.
Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Registered: January 19, 2007
Posts: 89
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I don't really think it matters anyways, but I have just always thought God was a He since most the time it says He or Him
~`~`~`~`Smiley Steven`~`~`~`~
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 5811
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quote: By the way she is a He why? It is in the Bible on the first page and it states something like God made a MAN in image to Himself.
There's somewhere in the Bible, I don't know where, but my pastor told me about it. where God is known as a female. Besides, I thought Yahweh was genderless.
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Registered: January 19, 2007
Posts: 89
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quote: Originally posted by Shade: drummer, you have what I like to call blind faith.  I suggest you encounter a transsexual relative, or that a member of your family gets hit by a car. God doesn't always smile upon you. And he won't always be there to catch you when you fall, or Fall, depending on if you're human or Angel. ( yes, I did have to add that. ) What I really think you should do is live life a little, and encounter...life, then decide about god. Yeah, that's all.
Okay I don't have blind faith. I have a gay cousin, best friends that are gay. I just found out yesterday that I have a 21 year old cousin that is my uncle's child that he didn't know about. I have 2 aunts and a uncle that were murdered (the aunts were by my cousin their son and the uncle was stuff in a frezer by one of his co-workers). I don't igorn any wrongs I just accept them as I said before. I realize stuff like my dad is never coming back and that I have to work to put food on the table. Sure my social life could better, but knowing that God is there to help people brings peace to mind. Though to my knowledge I don't have a relative that has been hit by a car or a transsexual. I think I have exprienced life and I don't think I have blind faith.
~`~`~`~`Smiley Steven`~`~`~`~
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Registered: January 19, 2007
Posts: 89
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quote: Originally posted by Maya:
We've gone over this a bunch of times...you can't prove that. You believe she is real, you have faith in her, but you can't prove it.
By the way she is a He why? It is in the Bible on the first page and it states something like God made a MAN in image to Himself.
~`~`~`~`Smiley Steven`~`~`~`~
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Registered: January 19, 2007
Posts: 89
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quote: Originally posted by finn620:
So drummer, you believe in counting the hits and ignoring the misses. If you pray for something and it happens, God did it. If you pray for something and it didn't happen, then God just didn't want to do it.
Which brings up an interesting question: If God is only going to do things that fit into his "plan", and will essentially ignore your requests as he sees fit in order to execute his plan, and will allow things to happen that no one prayed for because those things are also part of his plan...why are you praying in the first place?
Well I don't always pray for stuff. I don't igorn the misses I accept them. I have more than my share of bad stuff happen to me too, but that isn't the point. Praying isn't about getting stuff it is about developing a relationship with God.
~`~`~`~`Smiley Steven`~`~`~`~
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Registered: January 16, 2003
Posts: 12687
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quote: I asked if he existed and if it mattered what religion I followed. I would think that would be rather important for God to answer, unless his plan includes me burning in hell for not knowing what the right answers are.
Wait, wouldn't this questions be answered merely by reading the Bible?
"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6040
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quote: Sometimes what you asked for doesn't fit into his plan.
I asked if he existed and if it mattered what religion I followed. I would think that would be rather important for God to answer, unless his plan includes me burning in hell for not knowing what the right answers are.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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