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Maybe he had a bet with some other gods.

Oh so now we have gone to believing that there are many gods. What were they playing clpo13? Poker? Anyway if the God does not have any interest in the world, then why do so many people believe in him? I mean there is a whole list of religions, and I can’t remember a time in history when no one believed in God.
Let me ask you this why can’t the Christians, or the Muslims or some other world religion be right? Why are you so sure that even if there is a god, he does not care about mankind? You have a belief but why?

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Who can say what the motives of this god are? Maybe he was bored. Maybe he had a bet with some other gods. Maybe he just likes watching us fumble around wondering if he exists. Who knows?

oh you didn't clpo !! how can you say there's more than one God? And that maybe he doesn't give a shit about us?!After all, we are the center of everything...

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Also if the god has no interest in the Universe then why was the universe created?

Why do any of us do anything? I like to build model cars, but that doesn't mean I like to play with them after I build them. Contractors have no interest in what they build after they're done. Who can say what the motives of this god are? Maybe he was bored. Maybe he had a bet with some other gods. Maybe he just likes watching us fumble around wondering if he exists. Who knows?

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Is the book good?

Yeah the book was good. Huggins does a great job of conveying the emotions of the characters, and giving a great Fight. Also even though his work is fiction he is able to work a loot of real world stuff into it.

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In other words, isn't it possible that the Designer has not been involved at all in this universe since it's inception?

Well from a strictly nonreligious stance the idea is realistic, although the fact that the world is designed for human life tends to point to a designer that cared about us. Also if the god has no interest in the Universe then why was the universe created?

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isn't it possible that the Designer has not been involved at all in this universe since it's inception?

I would suppose no more or less possible then one who would be intimately involved the universe.

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clpo: Because they're all-powerful and demand worship?

I suppose from a certain point of view that would be it, but if we're just talking about a Designer figure, things could really be like a deistic standpoint, where some being created the universe and left us to our own designs. In other words, isn't it possible that the Designer has not been involved at all in this universe since it's inception?

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If God is a loving God that loves unconditionally then no matter what sins or trespassies he will never love you less, he will never look down on you, or cast you aside because he is like a parent who, even while dissapointed, still tries to steer their child onto the path he believes is right....

I believe in God, yes, I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of god and died for our sins, yes. But I also believe that God loves us, unconditionally, and would not leave us in pain no matter how horrible our crimes may be because doesn't it also say that he is merciful?

21[Jesus Said:]"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' Matthew 7:21-23

I know what the Nephilim are. I'm addicted to angels, after all. Is the book good?

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nephilem: Where did you get your name? Or more importantly, why did you choose it? As I am just wondering..

I got it from James Byron Huggins' book, Nightbringer.
The Nephilim are superhuman, and are a biblical race from the Old Testament.
I wanted a name that sounded cool and conveyed power; I also wanted a unique name

If God is a loving God that loves unconditionally then no matter what sins or trespassies he will never love you less, he will never look down on you, or cast you aside because he is like a parent who, even while dissapointed, still tries to steer their child onto the path he believes is right.

It seems the Bible is full of contradictions. They say that God loves all his children and yet at the same time looks down upon them?

I understand what is being said, the despite the sins of man God simply wants them to pay them, to take responsibility and learn from them, but at the same time...the whole thing is just somewhat off.

I believe in God, yes, I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of god and died for our sins, yes. But I also believe that God loves us, unconditionally, and would not leave us in pain no matter how horrible our crimes may be because doesn't it also say that he is merciful?

Mercy is not limited to only the deserving and kindness is not reserved for those who only follow our words and beliefs.

Perhaps such a love is simply uncomprehensible to the human mind, as it is so full of other more negative things, so people try to rationalize and add restrictions to it. That is sad, but I suppose that is also human.

clpo: Because they're all-powerful and demand worship?

nephilem: Where did you get your name? Or more importantly, why did you choose it? As I am just wondering..

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We may know that we really don’t know what we are talking about, but it is very hard to be content with that.

And knowing that your are wrong but pretending you are right is better than just admiting you don't know?

I have about 5 essay grades that will prove you wrong.

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Well if there is not a God or Designer then how do we have life on Earth?

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that there is a God or Designer. Why must there be a religion worshiping this deity? Why do we need to worship the one who created the universe?

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Why can't anyone be content with knowing that they don't know?

Because when it comes to questions of, what is the purpose of our life? Or is there a god, and if so does he love me? People want answers.
We may know that we really don’t know what we are talking about, but it is very hard to be content with that.

Why can't anyone be content with knowing that they don't know?

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there must be or is a religion that is true, that is really the authentic one, that is from God.


not necessarily...

Well if there is not a God or Designer then how do we have life on Earth? This goes past the evolution Debate and to the Origan of life debate. There are a bunch of people who belive in a common ancestor of man, and don’t believe in any world religion, but still believe that there is some type of supernatural essence.

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there must be or is a religion that is true, that is really the authentic one, that is from God.

not necessarily...

I think that the best way to figure out if a religion is true is just to look at what that religion says. If a religion really is from God, then it should be true, and impossible to disprove. So you can’t prove a religion true, but if it is false then prove it False.

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there must be or is a religion that is true, that is really the authentic one, that is from God.

Ah, yes. The eternal question, because then people ask "Well, which one?" And all answer at the same time "Mine!"

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there must be or is a religion that is true, that is really the authentic one, that is from God.

What if they're all from God? He just told one piece of the story to each person?

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coz to know whether a religion is of God, they should be doing the things or the commandments of God, not violating them.

God has given other commandments to other peoples. Not just the Jews. There are other positive religons in this world; you just have to open your eyes and your mind to see them.