I really am not very knowledgable about religion, so I try to stay away from spiritual debates. However, I have a few questions.

The Ancient greeks worshipped many gods, did they go to hell?

Why weren't ancient people christian? Does that mean that christianity is a sham?

In addressing incest, perfect gene structures do not yield disfigured people, imperfect ones do. ask a better question next time.

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Originally posted by Horselover14:

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Well before Christianity there was Judaism and Islam...

Ummmmmm...acctually Christianity came before Islam.

And you've brought up one of the things that bugs me most about Judaism, Islam, and Christianity, bluedemocrat. I mean if God created the world then why did it take so long for people to start worshiping him? One of the many inconsistencies of religion I'm afraid...but it would seem to me that before Jesus everyone would have gone to hell because the Bible is always going on about how the only way to heaven is through him so before him there would have been no way to heaven.

Well, people did worship God before Jesus. You see, they are two different people, so to speak. God is the deity and Jesus is a human who is considered to have been the Messiah.

But Jews believe in God and they believed in Him before Jesus came, obviously. And I think someone has already posted the scripture where everyone who had died before Jesus came (and therefore weren't forgiven for all their sins) rose up to Heaven.

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Clpo, you took the words right out of my head. : )

He's good at that...me and Nick are in kinda the same boat, not many posts but we've been reading stuff for a long time.

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Well before Christianity there was Judaism and Islam...

Ummmmmm...acctually Christianity came before Islam.

And you've brought up one of the things that bugs me most about Judaism, Islam, and Christianity, bluedemocrat. I mean if God created the world then why did it take so long for people to start worshiping him? One of the many inconsistencies of religion I'm afraid...but it would seem to me that before Jesus everyone would have gone to hell because the Bible is always going on about how the only way to heaven is through him so before him there would have been no way to heaven.

tee-hee

Clpo, you took the words right out of my head. : )

haha...well, thanks!

Well, you're a great semi-newbie-who-really-isn't-a-newbie.

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Thanks Nick. For a newbie, you're pretty cool.

Thanks, although I'm not sure if I would consider myself a newbie... Although my registered date is June 23, 2004..I actually joined YN in December of 2003... I didn't post at all (because I didn't have a great (or fast) computer and it took too long to read posts (before I had cable and I had to pay for every second I was online...the dark ages...))...And then I remember that I forgot something about a password or something so I created this 'NickJ' NoiseNAME because I completely forgot what the old one was too... But, as to the number of posts I have... it seems small because, although I would read a lot of posts, I often didn't want to start a lot of conflict with my opinions, and then I got criticized for being on the YAB and not posting, so I decided to then share my opinions openly...

But thanks all the same!

Thanks Nick. For a newbie, you're pretty cool.

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If the children had to mate with each other, wouldn't you say that we'd all be just a little DISFIGURED? Incest dude. I'm agnostic, I have no problem saying it, but I'm fond on the theory of evolution. Personally, in my opinion, the Bible is probably the best work of fiction there is now days. It's been edited so much over the past, that it's nearly impossible to say what's true and what is not true, what's fact and what's fiction. You can't prove something that was written thousands of years ago and edited over the years, a book of stories and tales that have no proof whatsoever. However, isn't it safe to say that you can prove science? After all, isn't that what science is all about?

Absolutley, I totally agree!

As to zzyzx, word of mouth can change the meaning of a story, and, kids don't always believe what their parents tell them...little rebels, them...

I heard somewhere (don't quite remember where) that God created Adam and Eve as the first humans, and then created everyone else later. Or something like that. I don't really care because I think it's all a load of crock.

If Adam and Eve were the first humans, who personally talked to the jewish/christian God, why do other religions exist? Surely they would have told all their children. And they would've told their children..well anyways yea. Why is that?

If the children had to mate with each other, wouldn't you say that we'd all be just a little DISFIGURED? Incest dude. I'm agnostic, I have no problem saying it, but I'm fond on the theory of evolution. Personally, in my opinion, the Bible is probably the best work of fiction there is now days. It's been edited so much over the past, that it's nearly impossible to say what's true and what is not true, what's fact and what's fiction. You can't prove something that was written thousands of years ago and edited over the years, a book of stories and tales that have no proof whatsoever. However, isn't it safe to say that you can prove science? After all, isn't that what science is all about?

I don't believe in a Hell either, so I can't answer your question. But someone earlier talked about the book of Genesis...I just had a question and it might be stupid, but here it goes. If Adam and Eve were the first humans on Earth, 1) did they live among the dinosaurs? (if you believe that it was actually a 'week' the 7 day period of the "Creation" thing) 2) Did Adam and Eve have to have a lot of children and then the children had to mate with each other?

agreed

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Of course even these early faiths weren't thought to arise until humans had developed brains capable of complex thoughts and that wondered about love, remourse, good, evil, bad, pain, friendship etc.

The first religions came with the early Homo Sapiens, when they had first fully evolved. This was when they began having ritual ceremonies for the dead (i.e. placing the person in a grave with rocks at the head and flowers upon them) and began "cave painting." Some of these drawings depicted mystical scenes, related to religious beliefs. They just needed something to belive in. Religion is all relative to the age and culture.

Well before Christianity there was Judaism and Islam... before these there was Buddism, before Buddism there were the Greek and Hindu faiths. So are all of these people clear for heaven if they died before Christianity arose? Or was that only the Jews? Earliest humans are thought to have worshiped animals and/or had "faith" bases involving polytheism, much like a simplified version of Greek Mythology or Hinduism. Of course even these early faiths weren't thought to arise until humans had developed brains capable of complex thoughts and that wondered about love, remourse, good, evil, bad, pain, friendship etc.

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Maybe all the religions are like that.

That's kind of what I was getting at.

You've got the right of it, greenleaf.