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Picture of EarthGoddess
Registered: January 15, 2003
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Science may prove the mechanics of one's faith to be incorrect, but people are still going to have faith in what they believe in or else it wouldn't be called faith.

Regardless, it's perfectly ok for people to believe in an afterlife for the sake of comfort. Of course its not ok to use religion as a means of control, but not everyone is like that. Nor is it ok to be disrespectful towards religious people, because that in turn makes you no better than the religious fanatics.
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Actually I don't care about your technical nit picky bs.

I don't care what faith is, I care about how these people come about their faith.


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Faith is a bullshit word invented by people for the idiot masses.


Actually, it's a word invented to describe a belief in anything with strong certainty.
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Faith is a bullshit word invented by people for the idiot masses.

It is a means of gaining control over a population.


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What's wrong with it is that these people accept their beliefs as facts and assume everyone else is supposed to as well. So I decided that I was going to state the actual facts for once.


So what? There's really nothing you can say or do to those people that will sway them, whether there is scientific proof that they're wrong or not.

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So what besides science can people use to prove the existence of something? Since apparently it cannot be used for the supernatural, according to you.



Most people who believe in the supernatural, believe because of faith. Science can't prove or disprove faith.
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While I agree, what's so wrong with people believing they'll go to a happy place when they die? It may be a delusion, but if it brings them comfort and joy about dying, why try to ruin that for them?


What's wrong with it is that these people accept their beliefs as facts and assume everyone else is supposed to as well. So I decided that I was going to state the actual facts for once.

So what besides science can people use to prove the existence of something? Since apparently it cannot be used for the supernatural, according to you.


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While I agree, what's so wrong with people believing they'll go to a happy place when they die? It may be a delusion, but if it brings them comfort and joy about dying, why try to ruin that for them?

And the whole concept of the soul is supernatural, so trying to use science to explain why it doesn't exist is pretty much pointless. And even if it didn't exist, that's no proof that there is no God. That's only proof that religious texts might be wrong.
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lol, I knew someone would bring up that science isn't always right, but yes as you said, it is a field that is willing to correct itself.


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Which is depressing, but it should give you incentive to live life to its fullest.

I view it in a slightly more existentialist fashion - it's empowering, because what you do in life is all that matters. You choose.

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But that's okay, because every SINGLE time science and religion have debated something; logic and science has ALWAYS been right about it.


And while I agree with you in the main on this point, there are times when the scientific theories that were advanced contra religion were wrong. However, this just meant that science and religion were offering competing errant definitions, and is no an indictment of science per se. Science tends to be self correcting which places it head and shoulders above religion on virtually every issue.


'I consider that there is nothing better or more enjoyable than life itself. It is not therefore to be wondered at if I am willing to purchase my life with my material possessions.' Geoffrey of Monmouth
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