I come to support my fellow mormon. I will stay in this forum until I lose it. Sounds rather interesting. Question us away!

Eh, you made it seem like there were more things you disagreed with...

Sleeprocker's avatar is a penguin. Heh.

We once had a board on here by a girl who was Mormon, but she kept spelling it "moron". That was a great thread.

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The morman church is not christian at all.

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From what I understood, Christianity is about believing that Jesus Christ is humanity's savior and God's son, not about predicting what's right or wrong. Plenty of "real" Christians have tried to predict things and gotten it wrong.

yes i have a question.. how come joseph smith, in his book, wrote there were people living on the moon ( funny, the church took that out later) and how come they predicted the coming of Jesus 4 times and got it wrong? The morman church is not christian at all.

well, everyone disagrees (or should) about something or other in the church. THat does not mean they have no faith, and don't believe. Pettiness and little disbelief should not be taken of lack of faith. Amen.

Thanks... Noisemail?

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You disagree with beliefs of the LDS church, yet you still call yourself Mormon.

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Aye. I disagree with their stance on homosexuality. Not major beliefs like Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. I have been pressured to support only straits. I guess this answers both of your questions.

I believe it's incredibly foolish that the church says that gays are wrong because they have sex outside of marriage, yet they don't want gays to be granted the same equal right as everyone else. I don't see anything wrong with them. Marriage should be given to them, then they'd be following what the church teaches and follow a lifestyle that I know most cannot choose.

And Sleeprocker- Awesome avatar- and thank you.

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I'll ask a question back. Do you agree with everything school teaches you, yet you still go to school?

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They're two different things. You disagree with beliefs of the LDS church, yet you still call yourself Mormon.

A person goes to school to be educated. By going to school, you don't give yourself a title at all, let alone one that represents things you don't believe in. See how they're different?

First, I'd like to say that you're quite brave for being out (as a Mormon, come on now! ) on YN.

Okay, I'd just like to ask you what your personal position on homosexuality is. I think I have a good idea based on the facts that you are very strong in your faith (which is cool, by the way), and based on what you have said previously.

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"I can't, I'm Mormon"

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I love those shirts. They're funny, and true, and funny.

Has anyone seen the "I can't, I'm Mormon" shirts? What do you think of them?

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They're not allowed to marry, but having sex before marraige is a sin....that's kind of locking the gay community into a box.

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The same goes with the youth of the church. Nobody in our church is suppose to have sex outside of marriage.

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How can you disagree with things in your church and still have faith in it?

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I'll ask a question back. Do you agree with everything school teaches you, yet you still go to school?

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why would you have passover? are you jewish or mormon? i don't get it

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I wonder... I'm mormon. We believe in tolerance towards other religions. We also learn about the angel of death because we do believe in the bible.

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Does that sound like it goes along with the bible then?

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Can you rephrase that?

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The hearts too fickle and too illogicalto be listened to. You really can't ignore research or proven scientific facts. If you don't have a logical basis for your beliefs you're too ignorant of your own religion.

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If you loved somebody and you knew they were a good person yet your parents hated them who would you follow, yourself or your parents. Be truthful here. Faith is illogical I suppose? Except everybody uses faith every day. Even non-believers.

Well, I suppose I could bring up the fact that 9 witnesses, most of whom were not members of the church said that the BoM was true. Another person gave a seal that the BoM was translated correctly, yet once he found out the it was for the church he tore it up.

Earth Goddess- Thanks

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I fail to see the humour

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I knew you wouldn't. But I just had to let you know how incredibly ironic that was.

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You really can't ignore research or proven scientific facts.

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Remember our little talks about homosexuality? And all the proven scientific facts I gave but you chose to ignore?

Practice what you preach my dear.

I fail to see the humour

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You really can't ignore research or proven scientific facts.

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Hahahahaha.

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As for homosexuality in our church. The church believes that gays are sinning because they aren't marrying before having sex. But they are against gay marriages.

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They're not allowed to marry, but having sex before marraige is a sin....that's kind of locking the gay community into a box. It's basically a way to be against homosexuality without having the nerve to come out and say "This church believes that homosexuality is wrong"

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But some of the things I don't agree with, and the others that might be true hasn't shaken my faith.

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How can you disagree with things in your church and still have faith in it?

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I'm sorry. That must have come as a shock. How come he didn't tell you?

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It did. He didn't tell me, because he didn't have the nerve to face me with it. He knew I'd be upset.

You know it really doesn't sound like a God thing to only let one person see the documents. The only other time i've heard of that would be the ten commandments where he came down with the commandments from God, but that didn't need translation nor did it go against anything the bible had already stated. And others were able to see them even though they weren't "pure". It just doesn't fit God's personality in the BoM.

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. In fact at young womens one time we had Passover.

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why would you have passover? are you jewish or mormon? i don't get it

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For example. And it came to pass is not in the bible. Its something generally unique to the bom.

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Does that sound like it goes along with the bible then?

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But some of the things I don't agree with, and the others that might be true hasn't shaken my faith. I believe more in what my heart tells me, then what another person who's against my faith is trying to force on me.

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What don't you agree with? might be true? what's your take? YOU'RE HEART IS FICKLE! why would you listen to your heart? why? The hearts too fickle and too illogicalto be listened to. You really can't ignore research or proven scientific facts. If you don't have a logical basis for your beliefs you're too ignorant of your own religion.

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is that really the human side of ur faith or are they just the fanatical excesses?

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That's the extreme. Certainly none of the Mormons that I know go throwing, or even putting down other religions. In fact at young womens one time we had Passover.


As for homosexuality in our church. The church believes that gays are sinning because they aren't marrying before having sex. But they are against gay marriages. I personally believe that gay marriages should be allowed to be married because everyone should have equal rights- but I know i'm in the minority. I think however that most people are accepting of gays in general, even though they're not supporting gay marriages.

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I found out the week before from one of my Mormon friends who said she thought it was cool my dad was getting baptized. Isn't that great?

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I'm sorry. That must have come as a shock. How come he didn't tell you?

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I know a homosexual mormon (which was so sad to hear, because he was gorgeous)...

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^_^ I know how you feel.

My dad got baptized Mormon 3 year ago. I found out the week before from one of my Mormon friends who said she thought it was cool my dad was getting baptized. Isn't that great?

I know a lot of Mormon's. I respect that they're so family oriented, but there are so many things that I can't stand so many things about the LDS church.

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it would be the disproportionately large amount of suicides committed by gay Mormons (compared to homosexuals within the other Christian religions).

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I know a homosexual mormon (which was so sad to hear, because he was gorgeous)...Well, he's really an ex-mormon now. He left the church, because in it homosexuality is unacceptable. I think it's horrible that someone wouldn't be able to go to the church they were raised in, just because they are attracted to people of their same sex.

True, many mormons do no believe in gay relations. Though, my ex-girlfriend's parents are mormon and they find it hard to believe and refuse to believe she is a lesbian. But of course they still love her. Truth and justice, in no way, come from each and every belief. (As everyone has to say) Everyone leads a different life of their own, how can any be right or wrong? All deserve equality and respect, even if you dont believe in it, still, respect is vital.