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Picture of brg14outloud
Registered: August 27, 2004
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ask me a question and i can most likely help if not check your or a bible.
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Registered: August 25, 2004
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Bauhaus,

It is possible for God to be omnipresent (everywhere simultaneously) and the devil exist there at the same time.

2 Corinthians 3:17 in correct translation from Hebrew says "Where the spirit is Lord, there is liberty." We know the spirit is everywhere but we also know there is not liberty everywhere. This means that where the spirit is not considered Lord, there is not liberty. The only reason why the devil can exist where God exist is because God is not honored and welcolmed as Lord and savior in that particular place (home, church, country, etc.) or within your heart. The devil can freely take his place there if the spirit of God isen't honored there (even in your mind). This is why there is so much corruption in certain places. When God is not acknowledged terrible things happen by the devils hand that God allows because we choose not to give Him a place in our life/communities and we've given the enemy the upper hand through our choices.


In God's name ALL things are possible. He's able to do the impossible!!!
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Registered: November 02, 2004
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Originally posted by bauhaus:
If God is love, and if God is also omnipresent, then the Devil cannot exist. If the Devil exists, God cannot be love and also be omnipresent. Yet, an omnipresent God of love and the Devil are both said to exist.


I also have a question, the bible says the sun spins around the earth, this has been proven wrong, how can I believe anything else in the bible?


Could you please give a verse were it says that thanks. Here are somethings i know the Bible says.
The Shape of the Earth

"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in" (Isaiah 40:22)


The Earth is uspended in nothing

"He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing" (Job 26:7)

The Concept of Entropy

"In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. Like clothing you will change them and they will be discarded" (Psalm 102:22)

For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given you the blood to sprinkle upon the altar as an atonement for your souls; it is the blood that makes atonement, because it is the life. Leviticus 17:11

Remember these scientific truths were discovered long after they were written here in these scriptures.
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Registered: November 02, 2004
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if god's all-powerful, can he create a rock so big he would not be able to lift it?


No if he did that he would stop being all powerful as long as the rock existed because the rock would become more powerful than him. He cant be all powerful and makes something more powerful than himself at the same time. That would be like the strongest man in the world training someone else to be the strongest man in the world. Ok well which one is the strongest the trainer on the student?
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Registered: November 02, 2004
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Originally posted by VeRtiCaLxLiMiT:
i'm not religious. im born into a roman catholic family, but i just have too much doubt and too little faith. i dont have any questions. just give me a reason to believe. i don't see anything reasonable. i feel like there's too much corruption and destruction in the world today, and god (if he were to exist) isn't doing anything about it.


Come to me all of you that labor and are heavy burdened and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart and you shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light- Jesus Christ Matthew 11:28-30
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Registered: December 17, 2003
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Yea if you want to go to heaven.You can have fun. But if you do something wrong you should ask god to forgive you. But you can't keep doing the samething over and over again knowing your doing something wrong. I mean you shouldn't do anything bad.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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So basically I have no other choice then to believe and follow Gods word? Where does my free will come into play?


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Registered: December 17, 2003
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Yes god does have a plan to take all of his kids. And leave all people who don't believe in him left behind. and thats not a good thing. Because the worlds going to go through alot of bad stuff.
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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yeah, then I'm going to change LOTS of stuff around...lol


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: June 03, 2004
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Not until he/she achieves world domination. Wink


1-We are all born originals - why is it so many of us die copies? 2- Life is tough... it's tougher if you're stupid.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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does God have a plan for us?


-I am the j1zz on your flower- http://www.myspace.com/bauhausbold
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Registered: September 22, 2004
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i'm not religious. im born into a roman catholic family, but i just have too much doubt and too little faith. i dont have any questions. just give me a reason to believe. i don't see anything reasonable. i feel like there's too much corruption and destruction in the world today, and god (if he were to exist) isn't doing anything about it.
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Registered: August 25, 2004
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Uhh...Sure...Okay.


In God's name ALL things are possible. He's able to do the impossible!!!
Picture of CelticNewAger
Registered: December 11, 2003
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Yes, a 12 year old girl. For obvious reasons.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: August 25, 2004
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???...What 12 year old girl???


In God's name ALL things are possible. He's able to do the impossible!!!
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Nah, I just pictured a 12 year old girl. You have to imagine a simliar person. Don't worry. I've already cursed lives.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: August 25, 2004
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CelticNewAger,

Good! I'm sure if demons had authority over the power of God they would have succeeded at choking me in the middle of the night. So, now you have acutal proof that the power of God is stronger than any demon.


In God's name ALL things are possible. He's able to do the impossible!!!
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Damn, I had sent a demon to choke you in your sleep


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: August 25, 2004
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Good question! Since we already know that there is nothing God can't do, if he wanted to make a rock with the intention of it being so big even he couldn't lift it, He could very well do that. He's chosen to limit Himself with us in reality. He gave us free will. So, although He can do all things, He purposefully made it so He could not make us love Him because He knew it wouldn't be real love if it was forced.


In God's name ALL things are possible. He's able to do the impossible!!!
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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if god's all-powerful, can he create a rock so big he would not be able to lift it?


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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