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Picture of Jenos
Registered: May 03, 2003
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Not according to the non-denomination church that I attend.


I like these calm little moments before the storm.
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Actually Jenos, I'm working on finding the exact verse, but that statment would be impossible to be true if you follow what the Bible says. It says that you must be saved to be a Christian, and if you sin you aren't saved. Therefore, if you sin later in life and aren't saved anymore (it's possible to be unsaved), then you will go to hell.

I'm not telling everyone that they're going to hell, but it is my belief that even if you are not a Christian, if you aren't saved you will go to hell.


Just call me Captain Sillypants.
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Wrong Miss Chrissy.

The Bible says if you become a Christian, and even fall out later in life and reject Christianity, you still go to Heaven.

Where's your God now?


I like these calm little moments before the storm.
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Registered: September 19, 2005
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i realize i am jumping into the snake pit here, but Christianity is not just a state of mind, just because you dont believe in hell doesnt mean you wont go there..
the Christian religion says if you decide not to be a christian you will go to hell, so the concept of hell will hold to her even if she does not have the belief in Christianity...


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However, if honey decides not to be a Christian, then that belief of hell will no longer hold to her.
TRUE
I wonder what she is confused about?


Do you believe at all?
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That wasn't very nice Risika.... very funny, but not nice.



That was my goal. Smile


The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. - Robert Bloch
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Registered: September 19, 2005
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the bottom line is, this is a decision you have to make on your own honey13....it has to come from your heart, we could sit and argue christians vs. non christians till the end of time....but just because one of us tells you what religion to choose (or not to choose) does not mean it will be the right decision for you.


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Registered: May 29, 2005
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Hence the "It's your hell, you burn in it."


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if you're a christian then you believed that not accepting jesus as your savior would send you to hell, and if you got in to witchcraft then you would definetly go to hell.


However, if honey decides not to be a Christian, then that belief of hell will no longer hold to her. Hell is nothing but a state of mind.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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[quote]I am confused and questioning my religion and I realized I am a bad christian.I don't really believe in organized religion but at the same time I don't want to go to hell.I am starting to get into witchcraft but I am not worshiping it.quote]

to my understanding; if you're a christian then you believed that not accepting jesus as your savior would send you to hell, and if you got in to witchcraft then you would definetly go to hell. (its in the bible which would be the book you were following as a christian.)

What is it exactly that your confused about?
which way to go or if your going to hell?


Do you believe at all?
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Registered: May 17, 2005
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I am listening to all of you and you have different points.I hope more advice comes along b/c I need it.Thanx for the advice
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It's a proven fact people like good news better than bad news, and telling them they're going to rot in eternal punishment because they don't follow a certain set of beliefs is generally held to be bad news, which brings up the interesting point as to why it's called "The Good News"...


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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You won't go to hell if you aren't Christian.

and how can you be so sure of that...
you state that like it is fact.


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Thanks, horse. Chrissy, read my post over again. I said:

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If you ask my opinion, I say just do what feels right. Don't think you're a bad Christian because Christianity isn't the standard to be measured by. Try out various religions and see what fits you. But the big thing to remember is that you don't need to be a Christian. It's not required. You won't go to hell if you aren't Christian.


Who's to say my opinion's wrong? You? I laugh at you. An opinion can't be wrong.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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What part of "If you ask my opinion" don't you understand, Chrissy? And the whole point of this thread is that her heart isn't telling her what's right and wrong.

That wasn't very nice Risika.... very funny, but not nice.

Honey13, if you even read this anymore, just do what feels right. If witchcraft turns your crank then go for it. Don't let people bully you into doing what they think is right. They could be wrong.


"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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If you ask my opinion, I say just do what feels right. Don't think you're a bad Christian because Christianity isn't the standard to be measured by. Try out various religions and see what fits you. But the big thing to remember is that you don't need to be a Christian. It's not required. You won't go to hell if you aren't Christian.


this is your opinion clpo....

honey13-- dont believe these things if you know in your heart they are wrong.


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I'm a christian, and those aren't really premenitions, like Pheobe on "Charmed", it's the Holy Spirit. You say that you are getting into witchcraft, that is a dark road to travel. A couple of years ago I almost slipped into that deep, but God was there. If your confussed talk to God. Just like you would talk to one of your friends. He's listening all the time and he's waiting to hear from you. Talk to God and read his word. Trust him, his listening and will reply. If you need someone to talk to e-mail me. I'll listen. -Tabb Wink



As if. God probably just deletes your messages off his answering machine. Get over it.


The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. - Robert Bloch
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I'm a christian, and those aren't really premenitions, like Pheobe on "Charmed", it's the Holy Spirit. You say that you are getting into witchcraft, that is a dark road to travel. A couple of years ago I almost slipped into that deep, but God was there. If your confussed talk to God. Just like you would talk to one of your friends. He's listening all the time and he's waiting to hear from you. Talk to God and read his word. Trust him, his listening and will reply. If you need someone to talk to e-mail me. I'll listen. -Tabb Wink


Kindness is a voice that the deaf can hear. -Blessings
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Hee hee, that made my day. Smile

I'm glad you appreciate it, because unless aliens take over your mind it's not going to stop anytime soon.


"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Darn tootin' I'm sick of it! Why must I constantly be complimented for saying what I believe? It's worse than swiss cheese on moldy bread!

Just kidding. I appreciate it.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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