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Picture of Jookly
Registered: December 19, 2002
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Hitler wrote a book, and he was probably the most powerfull man who ever lived up until now. How come you dont follow that?


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That is not proof. If a book can stand as proof of something, Harry Potter exists. It's faith, not proof.
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Originally posted by 3rdeyecure:
ok... i don't know if any of you will get this...
ok, well, everyone knows that us as humans cannot comprehend infinity... we just think ok there has to be a start and end... (here comes the strange part) what if the universe had no start and has no end? maybe its always been here and since we can't comprehend that then we don't believe it. b/c if we think a god created the universe then where did the god come from and where did wherever that god came from come from? it just goes on and on....
probably none of you understand where im coming from..


Excellent point. And probably the most logical I've heard. Just because humans assume that there is a beginning and an end does not mean there is.

I'm a Christian. Following my belief system (that was created essentially by humans), the beginning is when this God who has always existed created a world...also, this world already existed as an object but did not have light or air or water or animals or anything on it. It was like the rest of the planets are now. God simply created everything else. The end, of course, is supposed to be "the rapture," though it won't be the entire end.

However, I'm swung to believe this theory you've concocted, 3rdeyecure. What if there was no beginning or end to this earth? What if it just is? Infinity is a hard thing to grasp but it's possible that the earth has always existed and will always exist.


Belief makes things real/Makes things feel, feel alright/Belief makes things true/Things like you, you and I
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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Originally posted by jamaica17:
read the Bible.(Genesis) God made everything here on earth, including all the planets and the galaxies and everything... because if god didnt, then who did??? Humans cant do that because we dont have the power to do so, so it is only God who made everything, including humans. Smile


Hitler wrote a book, and he was probably the most powerfull man who ever lived up until now. How come you dont follow that?


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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That is not proof. If a book can stand as proof of something, Harry Potter exists. It's faith, not proof.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
Registered: June 28, 2003
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read the Bible.(Genesis) God made everything here on earth, including all the planets and the galaxies and everything... because if god didnt, then who did??? Humans cant do that because we dont have the power to do so, so it is only God who made everything, including humans. Smile
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well you remember spinjas? My god is like the blue one with the black base.

0 loses baby.

wooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Why is it that if you don't have a religion that offers and explaination for the universe, you are expected to know yourself? Isn't it satifactory to say "I don't know and most of the answers to questions regarding the origin of the universe are probably not only beyond what we can comprehend but also beyond what we can discover"? I'm generally too in denial of reality to see reasoning behind any explaination for its existance, so I'm more inclined to believe what I can back up with knowledge I already have, though even that cannot be totally backed. I don't believe in a higher power and generally go with the big bang or colliding branes theory (the latter which is pretty off the wall but still sounds cool and probable to me) but I'm hard pressed to find a cause for the universe's origins. I doubt anyone will ever know the truth.


L'enfer, c'est les autres. -Jean-Paul Sartre
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Registered: March 13, 2002
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Originally posted by Kharybdis:
Cthulhu would eat your god's sorry äss as an appetizer, Jookly.


From what I know about Cthulhu I'd have to agree.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Cthulhu would eat your god's sorry äss as an appetizer, Jookly.


Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. Frederick Douglass
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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my god would seriously woop your gods ***. That goes fro all of you.
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Originally posted by GinaMarie:
Let's talk about the big question. I want to know, that is if you don't believe in God how to you think we all got to earth? How do you think earth got here? The planets? The galaxys?


::Scoff.:: Duh. We all know the aliens built Earth and God. Roll Eyes Doesn't ANYBODY watch X-Files? Smile




LOL
Not GOD then who????
try cosmic coincidence.


I'll sleep when im dead .
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Originally posted by GinaMarie:
Let's talk about the big question. I want to know, that is if you don't believe in God how to you think we all got to earth? How do you think earth got here? The planets? The galaxys?


::Scoff.:: Duh. We all know the aliens built Earth and God. Roll Eyes Doesn't ANYBODY watch X-Files? Smile


A lo hecho, pecho.
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Good point 3rdeyecure. How can it be that God was here before the infinite amount of time, which never ends, and therefore would not allow there to be other time for God to "become"? Is it simply part of the faith he requires?


Illiud Latine dici non potest - You can't say that in Latin
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ok... i don't know if any of you will get this...
ok, well, everyone knows that us as humans cannot comprehend infinity... we just think ok there has to be a start and end... (here comes the strange part) what if the universe had no start and has no end? maybe its always been here and since we can't comprehend that then we don't believe it. b/c if we think a god created the universe then where did the god come from and where did wherever that god came from come from? it just goes on and on....
probably none of you understand where im coming from..
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Good point, Glove.


While waiting for the promised "best four years of [my] life" (Various People), I found YouthNoise. http://tinyurl.com/2kbx5p
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Registered: March 13, 2002
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Originally posted by Ikki14Reed:
Only one person has given you a quote, though.


I think she might be seeing our signatures. Razz


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Only one person has given you a quote, though.


While waiting for the promised "best four years of [my] life" (Various People), I found YouthNoise. http://tinyurl.com/2kbx5p
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Registered: December 28, 2004
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You guys are just throwing quotes at me. Those are sum1 else's opinions. Not yours. Roll Eyes
Picture of CelticNewAger
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"I think therefore I am" I forgot who said that.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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How do we know we're even here and it's not a figment of our imagination or someone else's dream?


While waiting for the promised "best four years of [my] life" (Various People), I found YouthNoise. http://tinyurl.com/2kbx5p
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