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Registered: May 02, 2007
Posts: 20
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Atheism is a belief that there is no God. To say that there is no God is a absolute statement.For example, if i were to say that there is no gold in China,that would be a absolute statement,in order for me to know that there is no gold in China, then i would have to know everything about china, I would have to know what is in every mountain,jewelry box,and every tooth. In order for this absolute statement to be an absolute truth I would have to absolutely know that there is no gold in China. To say that there is no God I would have to know absolutely everything in the universe. Einstein said that no human has more than one-millionth of a percent of the knowledge in the universe So Mr. Athiest, if you are a super genius and you have one percent of all the knowledge in the universe do you not think that the nintey-nine percent of knowledge left that there could be enough evidence to proove that God exists?
Others don't care how much we know until they see how much we care
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Registered: April 07, 2007
Posts: 70
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quote: did he have to ride his tyrannosaurus steed at 88 mph to travel back in time and be all "yoink i made the golden rule now bitchez"
A lot more kids would read the Bible if it had a Tyrannosaurus in it. Especially if it included illustrations. quote: oh how did i see that coming.
Well, I've mentioned it several times before. Presumably that would aid you in predicting its coming up in a discussion about the golden rule.
This made me laugh a bit.
Vice is a monster of so frightful face, as to be hated needs but to be seen; but seen too often, familiar with her face, we first endure, then tolerate, then embrace. - Alexander Pope
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Registered: January 22, 2005
Posts: 860
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quote: oh how did i see that coming.
Well, I've mentioned it several times before. Presumably that would aid you in predicting its coming up in a discussion about the golden rule. Also, you don't seem to be that keen in rebutting my reasons for disliking it, only noting your sarcastic disdain for my dislike. quote: and yet christianity started it all
Is this supposed to simply be a direct contradiction of 'lots of other religious and secular systems use this maxim, and have discovered it quite separatley to Christianity'? Because, if you examine the history, not only does the Talmudic version defintiely predate Jesus' version (even in your strangely compressed version of human history) , but the others, which you may not be willing to accept the existence of or may get them confused with warlocks or something, also formulated the golden rule before Jesus. If anything, Jesus is the copycat here. quote: did he have to ride his tyrannosaurus steed at 88 mph to travel back in time and be all "yoink i made the golden rule now bitchez"
because that would be pretty unbecoming of jesus
I wish...
'I consider that there is nothing better or more enjoyable than life itself. It is not therefore to be wondered at if I am willing to purchase my life with my material possessions.' Geoffrey of Monmouth
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Registered: April 15, 2003
Posts: 1485
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how could Christianity have started it when Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, Jainism, and Judaism, not to mention all the Greek and Egyptian dudes, all predate Christianity (that means they are older [just in case you needed clarification {because you probably did}]) is jesus a time traveler did he have to ride his tyrannosaurus steed at 88 mph to travel back in time and be all "yoink i made the golden rule now bitchez" because that would be pretty unbecoming of jesus but that seems to be what you're implying here
I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world. -- Eugene V. Debs
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Registered: March 03, 2009
Posts: 392
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quote: Firstly, I dislike the Golden Rule.
oh how did i see that coming. quote: And, more importantly, lots of other religious and secular systems use this maxim, and have discovered it quite separatley to Christianity. Confucious, the ancient Egyptians, loads of Greek philosophers, Buddha, Hinduism, Jainism, Judaism (before the commonly used Christian Luke formation, in the Talmud), Sikhism and Taoism all have thier own versions. I think it would probably survive even if it hadn't been in Christianity.
and yet christianity started it all how would have any other religion come up with it if it wasnt for christ's teaches and such.
"If you can't stand the way this place is, take yourself to higher places, Break Away To Higher Places" - TDG
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Registered: January 22, 2005
Posts: 860
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quote: how if this was never in the bible it might have never been still in use today?
Assuming that your sentence approximates to 'How? If the Golden Rule was not in the Bible, it wouldn't still be in use today.' I'll respond. Firstly, I dislike the Golden Rule. Treating other people as you would be treated is not a very good guide to acting well, because people are different. The things I might want are not what you might want, and universalising what I want is not a good way for me to be moral. If I like pain, for example, I should want to treat you in the same way that you should treat me, so I would whip you as frequently as possible in the hopes that you will do the same to me. Even Kant didn't like it that much, and he was a big fan of universalising moral maxims. And, more importantly, lots of other religious and secular systems use this maxim, and have discovered it quite separatley to Christianity. Confucious, the ancient Egyptians, loads of Greek philosophers, Buddha, Hinduism, Jainism, Judaism (before the commonly used Christian Luke formation, in the Talmud), Sikhism and Taoism all have thier own versions. I think it would probably survive even if it hadn't been in Christianity.
'I consider that there is nothing better or more enjoyable than life itself. It is not therefore to be wondered at if I am willing to purchase my life with my material possessions.' Geoffrey of Monmouth
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Registered: December 18, 2005
Posts: 1643
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quote: are you an ESL dude posting via babelfish with the assistance of an organ grinder monkey typist
right?
i stand for love and peace!
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Registered: April 15, 2003
Posts: 1485
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quote: Originally posted by Romashu:
how if this was never in the bible it might have never been still in use today?
I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world. -- Eugene V. Debs
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Registered: March 03, 2009
Posts: 392
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quote: basically what i'm getting at is that your posts are a touch incoherent that is what i am trying to convey to you
and just how is this?
"If you can't stand the way this place is, take yourself to higher places, Break Away To Higher Places" - TDG
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Registered: April 15, 2003
Posts: 1485
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are you an ESL dude posting via babelfish with the assistance of an organ grinder monkey typist are you a rogue chat bot on the run from the law and looking for love in all the wrong places are you an undiagnosed sufferer of wernicke's aphasia basically what i'm getting at is that your posts are a touch incoherent that is what i am trying to convey to you read some strunk&white dude it'll change your life
I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world. -- Eugene V. Debs
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Registered: March 03, 2009
Posts: 392
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quote: In fact, that's a misinterpretation of what Wolfie said. What she actually said was that the Golden Rule made people better (I disagree) and this isn't actually dependent on God's existence.
how if this was never in the bible it might have never been still in use today?
"If you can't stand the way this place is, take yourself to higher places, Break Away To Higher Places" - TDG
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Registered: April 15, 2003
Posts: 1485
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what on earth quotes don't quite work the way you think they do also the Qur'an and chairman mao's little red book are the #2 and #3 bestselling books so perhaps thats not the best metric for you to use tpo support your argument
I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world. -- Eugene V. Debs
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Registered: May 02, 2007
Posts: 20
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quote: Originally posted by Wolfie:
i stand for love and peace!
This is your signature so drugs would solve this problem no they would not my friend what happens when a druggie cant get high as they once were they get more and more and more so eventually they would O.D. and also wouldn't riots break out if the poor could not afford this drug and wouldnt crime rates sky rocket and oh car accidents lot more of those my question is would that solve the problem.....alot of people ask me if God exists well the bible predicts that Jesus was to come almost 500 years before his birth they told how he was going to be born how he was going to die and how the people would treat him and the bible has been proven to be true if only the timeline of it now explain that oh and one more thing the bible is one of the number one selling book in the world has been for decades
romashu. i tried in many posts to you to explain evolution and the big bang theory. and everytime i posted hard facts you ignored them. similar to what you are doing to brehon
are you homeschooled?
or does you're high school teach you nothing?
lol, and i do think you should smoke weed. i think everyone should smoke cannabais.
if everyone in the world smoked weed on occasion we would be a much happier place.
when i get a job i want to be a marijuana grower for the government. ohhhh baby how sick would that be.
i also plan on lobbying the legal recreational use of marijuana.
but seriously romashu, you ever come to ct look me up and i'll smoke a fat blunt with you. K? lol ^.-
Others don't care how much we know until they see how much we care
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Registered: December 18, 2005
Posts: 1643
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huhhhhhhh romashu. i tried in many posts to you to explain evolution and the big bang theory. and everytime i posted hard facts you ignored them. similar to what you are doing to brehon are you homeschooled? or does you're high school teach you nothing? lol, and i do think you should smoke weed. i think everyone should smoke cannabais. if everyone in the world smoked weed on occasion we would be a much happier place. when i get a job i want to be a marijuana grower for the government. ohhhh baby how sick would that be. i also plan on lobbying the legal recreational use of marijuana. but seriously romashu, you ever come to ct look me up and i'll smoke a fat blunt with you. K? lol ^.-
i stand for love and peace!
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Registered: March 03, 2009
Posts: 392
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Wolfie you come up with some childish remarks but brehon can dish out the info to actually challenge what i say.
"If you can't stand the way this place is, take yourself to higher places, Break Away To Higher Places" - TDG
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Registered: December 18, 2005
Posts: 1643
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every study hall that's what i'd read. back when i was a lame highschooler i think romashu should smoke weed.
i stand for love and peace!
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Registered: January 22, 2005
Posts: 860
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quote: well apparently according to you christians are nicer people thanks to god so im glad I have him.
In fact, that's a misinterpretation of what Wolfie said. What she actually said was that the Golden Rule made people better (I disagree) and this isn't actually dependent on God's existence. quote:
Im srry if i contradict myself I get chaught up in the moment. Could you give any better reasons as to your theories of evolution versus Creation?
Can we try to keep all the evolution stuff on one thread? I think the thread called 'Pagan' has the most about ID vs evolution, so we should reform the discussion there. quote: i'm sort of agnostic/taoist ish
Taoism! YAY! I love the Tao Teh Ching (Dao De Jing, which ever you prefer) - some of the poetry is just amazing. Highly recommend as another religious text to read, Romashu.
'I consider that there is nothing better or more enjoyable than life itself. It is not therefore to be wondered at if I am willing to purchase my life with my material possessions.' Geoffrey of Monmouth
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Registered: December 18, 2005
Posts: 1643
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romashu, what are you talking about? i blew you out of the water like 3 pages ago.
i stand for love and peace!
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Registered: March 03, 2009
Posts: 392
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Finally a challenge i just hope i can keep up. Im srry if i contradict myself I get chaught up in the moment. Could you give any better reasons as to your theories of evolution versus Creation?
"If you can't stand the way this place is, take yourself to higher places, Break Away To Higher Places" - TDG
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Registered: December 18, 2005
Posts: 1643
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my bf is an uber athiest. i'm sort of agnostic/taoist ish. he's like "there's nothing, we're just going to die." me, i hope there's something, but i don't know b/c i've never died.
i stand for love and peace!
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