Whoa! Sorry about my absences. School has been a beast. But now Spring Break, (woohoo) thought I might try to pick up where I left off.

I don't know if Srtangelive is still around or whatever but in repsonce-

I cann't "humor you with a brief summation" because a I don't think a "brief summation" is really possible. I'm not one of those christians who sum their believes into a bumper sticker or a one page essay. How I cam to become a christian and why I believe the bible is true is my whole life story, and what I have come to to be true.

As far as your explaintion on my reasoning, your wrong. I know a tree is a tree because of it external charateristic are of course different then that of a monkey or otter. It isn't a matter of "being preceived to treely" if you will, but that it is natural and a true justified belief that as tree can be identified on just it's apperance alone.

And still I am going to need futher elabortation before I can anwser.

Jesus Christ Died so that he could make himself a proxy for our sins he was sinless but took the shame of dying with our sins so that we could be saved from the pits of hell

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Jesus had to die because God gave Adam and Eve freewill to choose to do what they wanted to do.

But what does that have to do with him dying?

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Originally posted by CelticNewAger:
If God is all powerful, why did his son have to die for us?

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Jesus had to die because God gave Adam and Eve freewill to choose to do what they wanted to do.

[/QUOTE]So, should the Nazi's know where the Jews are? No. Then why should I tell them? If we are going to argue that it is "techonically" wrong to lie (at all) then hiding the Jews in first place was also a dishonest act. [/QUOTE]

Come on, dude, get real. We as PEOPLE and Christians have the right to refuse a law if it is wrong, illegal, and goes against the Word of God. Rahab hid the Joshua and Caleb in the Old Testament.Other Christians hid outlaw Christians in the first 300 years of Christianity.Christians don't have to obey a law that deliberately goes against the Word of God, which is higher than any authority on earth.

God doesnt need to prove that he is real! it is called a faith for a reason!
No one will ever prove if God is real or not! you either belive or you don't!

Interesting question Sian.... I have a dnd character by that name. He's a demon. heh. Wait, that's not approprate for this page, is it?

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He does not have an answer for that question because NO ONE has an answer for it and the religion itself has not provided one.

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so are you saying we shouldnt try and find an answer?

were did God come from?

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if he is the wisest, how come he doesnt have an answer to that question? Jesus died for us, ti save us from sin..... If your grandfather doesnt know that, he isnt wise and is not knowleagable about his own religion.

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He does not have an answer for that question because NO ONE has an answer for it and the religion itself has not provided one.

The thing is, IF your god was all that almighty and powerful, why did he have to give his son away? He could have done something else, since he is supposedly ever-so-powerful.

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If you have 2 braincells and truly know your religion, you realize that in your religion there has never been a one clear answer for that question. My grandfather is one of the wisest (removing the xenophobia part) people I know, and comparing him to you would be like comparing a very expensive exclusive perfume to a crappy drugstore 5 dollar body mist.

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if he is the wisest, how come he doesnt have an answer to that question? Jesus died for us, ti save us from sin..... If your grandfather doesnt know that, he isnt wise and is not knowleagable about his own religion.

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if he is Catholic, he should know the answer. You cant just be a Catholic, or whatever religion you are without knowing your own.

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If you have 2 braincells and truly know your religion, you realize that in your religion there has never been a one clear answer for that question. My grandfather is one of the wisest (removing the xenophobia part) people I know, and comparing him to you would be like comparing a very expensive exclusive perfume to a crappy drugstore 5 dollar body mist.

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(that's the question my grandfather always asks himself, he's a Catholic by the way)

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if he is Catholic, he should know the answer. You cant just be a Catholic, or whatever religion you are without knowing your own.

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Does the Bible say anything about Fae or Faries?

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Religious texts from Britian in the early 800's speak of the Fae as one of the manyfold pups of Cian, and pure evil, along with giants, goblins, merpeople, elves, will-o-wisps, and all other mystical creatures and/or monsters.

That's a good one DrStrangelove. It actually made me laugh.

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Does the Bible say anything about Fae or Faries?

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They're abominations to God and should be roasted and eaten in a light garlic sauce.

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However, as for reasoning, in my study of the Bible I have come to find that it's explanation of God's character and God's will are just and accordance with reality. However, this is not simply something I can just pluck out a Bible verse and explain everything, but a thorough reading of the entire Bible is necessary

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Humor me with a brief summation.

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Your third question is a strange one.. "why" is it God's word? Could you elaborate? The way it [the question] is now, it would be like asking, "why is a tree a tree?" The idea of a tree is true if it conforms to the material thing before me that my senses represents to be a tree.

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I'm asking you how you KNOW the Bible is the word of God. You're last bit about the tree shows me a flaw in your reasoning. You need a predertimined concept of a tree to understand that is is one. Somone tells you what a tree is and how it works. Likewise, I think that your belief that the Bible is the word of God is because people have told you in the past what God should be like. You can't "know" it's the word of God from simply reading the Bible. I want reasons as to why what is written in the book is divine.

Does the Bible say anything about Fae or Faries?

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Originally posted by bauhaus:
right vs wrong.

Lets say you were hiding some Jews in your house during WWII and the Nazis came to your door and asked if any Jews were inside. Would you do the right thing and not lie? or do the right thing and lie?

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Is this a moral relativism question, or is it a "Aha! Your not supposed to lie so now the Jewish familly has tod ie because of your morals" type spring loaded trap?

Morality is not determined by situations, but conditioned by it. It determines it partly, not wholly. There are three things that make a moral act good or bad: situation, motive, and the act itself. All this means is that one should apply objective principles to situations.

So, should the Nazi's know where the Jews are? No. Then why should I tell them? If we are going to argue that it is "techonically" wrong to lie (at all) then hiding the Jews in first place was also a dishonest act.

right vs wrong.

Lets say you were hiding some Jews in your house during WWII and the Nazis came to your door and asked if any Jews were inside. Would you do the right thing and not lie? or do the right thing and lie?