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Picture of depressedwavemaster
Registered: June 09, 2003
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Strangelove, we agree on something! Unfortunately, you are a bit more eloquent with your words than I, so I shall watch this one and not participate.

Korith, you sound angry. or frustrated. or something.


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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Registered: March 13, 2002
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Originally posted by Korith:
Last time I talked to you, you were very set in your belief that "if" there was a God, he was defiantly NOT the Christian God. Has this changed? If not, then you have set yourself higher than some of the brightest theological minds in the world, and closed yourself to any type of reasoning someone might offer you.


I am pretty set in that I think the Bible is a work of fiction, and not the divine word of God. Therefore, I cannot say I beleive in the "Christian" God, trinity or otherwise. I simply state that I know little of the nature of a Creator, but based upon what I know of our world, I'm betting it has something to do with a reasoning, rational being.

Disagreing with Theology PhDs does not mean I place myself higher than them. There are also plenty of theologists, past and present, that agree with me in some form or another. Do I those that disagree with me are wrong? For the most part, yes. Does this mean I'm not open to new information? Absolutely not. I've just never heard ONE convincing argument as to why the Bible should be taken as the word of God. Literal translation or interpretive, I see no reason whatsoever to beleive that that book, formed by commitee, is crafted by divine influence.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: August 09, 2003
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Korith, You've never really had a good conversation with me on this subject have you? Aside from that little anti-faith spat I went on for a while? What close minded reasoning? What lack of theological understanding? Come on Korith, I'm well overdue for a good religion conversation.



Last time I talked to you, you were very set in your belief that "if" there was a God, he was defiantly NOT the Christian God. Has this changed? If not, then you have set yourself higher than some of the brightest theological minds in the world, and closed yourself to any type of reasoning someone might offer you.


"I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others, ascribing to himself every human excellence, and believing he never claimed any other." -Thomas Jefferson
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I pride myself in just sticking to 3.5 D&D


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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D20 system? Inferior to gurps. That roll would have been a sucess in GURPS' 3d6 system. unless your will was 8 or lower.



See, I pride myself in not knowing that much about roleplaying games.

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Strangelove, Your complete lack of theological understanding and close minded reasoning has set yourself back even farther than any "lets play pretend" religions could have.



Korith, You've never really had a good conversation with me on this subject have you? Aside from that little anti-faith spat I went on for a while? What close minded reasoning? What lack of theological understanding? Come on Korith, I'm well overdue for a good religion conversation.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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So sad that the Wiccans are trying to make themselves seem different then Pagans


They are. Wiccans are dumber in a happy-go-lucky way.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: March 21, 2004
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And our will save throw was seven plus two. We fail and cannot stop our fingers from typing in this thread.



D20 system? Inferior to gurps. That roll would have been a sucess in GURPS' 3d6 system. unless your will was 8 or lower.


"Onward!"- O.V.B.
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So sad that the Wiccans are trying to make themselves seem different then Pagans.

Strangelove, Your complete lack of theological understanding and close minded reasoning has set yourself back even farther than any "lets play pretend" religions could have.

And your done.


"I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others, ascribing to himself every human excellence, and believing he never claimed any other." -Thomas Jefferson
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And our will save throw was seven plus two. We fail and cannot stop our fingers from typing in this thread.


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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Who the hell revived this thread?!


Starflower cast a ressurection +6 spell and succeeded in her saving throw with the d20.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Who the hell revived this thread?!


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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Must...Resist...Urge...To...Flame...

Celtic, anyone, help me.

Wicca and the pagan religon general is completely nonesensical, even moreso than christianity. You guys are setting humanity back a thousand years in theological and scientific thought.

There...done.


"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
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Registered: December 23, 2004
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Originally posted by northstar316:
paganism is a general term for any non-christian-muslim-jewish religion. Many of todays pagans worship the old gods from Rome, or Celtic or other dieties from northern Europe. Other pagans use Native American, Far Eastern, or other standard religions from "exotic" parts of the globe. Still others shape their own dieties, which allows for personal freedom in worship. It is a very broad word, but most pagans are very quiet with worship, and want only to be left alone, and therefore often draw little attention to themselves, even if there be a large community in one area.



thank you....you seem vary interesting if you ever want to talk live you or any Pagan can AIM me on ViloiaKaclb thank you again
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Registered: December 23, 2004
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Originally posted by morbidpoet:
I'm Wiccan. Wiccans would never harm anything...it's against our laws. "Ever mind the rule of three, what you send out comes back thee." I'm not sure about Pagan...I don't pay attention to Pagan.



I am a Pagan and I thought I could help you to understand that Wiccan although I prefer that term beacuse it is more familar to the "non wiccans" is just a sorry name for Pagans like Witch and a prefer not to say the others
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Hey, I'm new to this, but here's my two cents. I'm a wiccan and I've practiced for about 7 years now. I have never been happier. As a child I was pushed toward Christanity, but it just didn't feel right. When I found Wicca, it was like a light went on inside me. I had found something that felt true, and real. It hasn't be easy for me, but its been worth it. Just wanted to say something.
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I'm Wiccan. Wiccans would never harm anything...it's against our laws. "Ever mind the rule of three, what you send out comes back thee." I'm not sure about Pagan...I don't pay attention to Pagan.


Tell me you don't drag that blade across your skin and pray for the courage to press down.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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what type?


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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I'm a witch


-Theres Still Some Left in You-
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paganism is a general term for any non-christian-muslim-jewish religion. Many of todays pagans worship the old gods from Rome, or Celtic or other dieties from northern Europe. Other pagans use Native American, Far Eastern, or other standard religions from "exotic" parts of the globe. Still others shape their own dieties, which allows for personal freedom in worship. It is a very broad word, but most pagans are very quiet with worship, and want only to be left alone, and therefore often draw little attention to themselves, even if there be a large community in one area.


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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They seem fairly harmless. I don't know much about Wiccan or Pagen religions, just that Wiccan. It's nature-based, correct? Some Wiccans wanted to move to a town near mine, and start a church (do they call them churches?) . But the townspeople put a stop to it. It's a shame, if you ask me. I doubt they would have hurt anyone.


Yes its nature based. And it's called coven, lol.

I dont practice Wicca not because I find it wrong as a belief, but because it has been so commercialized, therfore making it into this always happy group of people. It just doesnt suit me.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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