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Registered: February 22, 2004
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I have a question when does a cult become a religon? does it have something to do with congregation size or the number of people who accept it as something not to hide their children from.
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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That's why I say, religions are just big cults. 
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Just like the Catholic Church.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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quote: with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
Usually the charismatic psychopath, ironically. Cults usually tend to have an extreme control over their followers, basically. Paranoid, secretative, etc.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: May 29, 2005
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dictionary.com defines cult as: A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
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Registered: September 29, 2004
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quote: Originally posted by Horselover14: Like Celtic said, religions are just cults with a lot of people. The dictionary says: Cult: system of religious worship; pursuit of, devotion to, some person, thing or activity Religion: system of belief in, worship of, supernatural power or god So maybe a cult could be something that worships a thing (like a pineapple ) , while religion has to have a supernatural power.
Crap, worshipping pineapples means it's a cult? ::Hides all her fruit.:: Freakin' Patriot Act. 
A lo hecho, pecho.
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Registered: February 27, 2003
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Like Celtic said, religions are just cults with a lot of people. The dictionary says: Cult: system of religious worship; pursuit of, devotion to, some person, thing or activity Religion: system of belief in, worship of, supernatural power or god So maybe a cult could be something that worships a thing (like a pineapple ) , while religion has to have a supernatural power.
"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: June 21, 2005
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In the united states christianity is a religion. this is b/c it is the religion that most ppl practice here in america. in places where christianity is the minority is is considered a cult. so basically if in a place a certain practice is a minority then it is a cult....but if it is a majority then it is a religion.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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hmm I'll accept that defanition celtic
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Religions are just big cults. Both control your life, both drain your brain.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Well, if you ask me, I think either could come first. The name is really just a label. Cult = bad and religion = good, for most people.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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hmm wait I just had a though which comes first the religon or the cult?
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Any time.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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oh okay thanks clpo
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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I found this on a term paper regarding the subject. quote: In order for a religion to become a cult, it needs to develop into a negative form of expression. Cults are often damaging to a person and any people that are close to them. In order for a cult to become a religion, it needs to develop into a positive form of expression. This cult to religion change is dependent on the amount of people that follow it, the respect that it gets from others, and the results of following it.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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I wonder if theres a book or website some where with this information.
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: November 27, 2003
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I don't know. Probably.
Just because nobody understands you, that doesn't mean you're artistic.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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boy so much for an online cult getting through them. but what I'm asking is do they have an actual criteria?
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: November 27, 2003
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In the US there has to be six official members (they used to have to be white males, but I don't think that's applicable anymore). Then, if they so choose, it's a religion.
Just because nobody understands you, that doesn't mean you're artistic.
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