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DO YOU THINK IT IS JUDGED SO BAD BECAUSE IN IS "NORMAL" TO BELIVE IN GOD OR BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVEN'T LEARNED ENUF ABOUT IT TO ACCEPT IT?
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Could be, but I think that's less likely. It is a self-centered religion, but if you ask a random person they would probably call it evil and "devil worship". Either way I don't really like Satanism. Although in that religion stupidity is a sin, so thats great.


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It's possible people don't accept it because they do know what it is.


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Ignore the last post I made in this thread.

Yes, people don't accept it because they don't know what it is. "It is important to realize that the Satan that they recognize has few if any points of similarity with the historical Muslim or Christian concept of Satan. The Satanists' concept of Satan is pre-Christian, and derived from the Pagan image of power, virility, sexuality and sensuality. To almost religious Satanists, Satan is a force of nature, not a living quasi-deity. Their Satan has nothing to do with Hell, demons, pitchforks, sadistic torture, buying people's souls, demonic possession, performing miracles, human sacrifices, cannibalism, and profoundly evil deeds. "


http://=http://www.religioustolerance.org/satanism.htm


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if I'm not attacking it, why does it much matter?
Because you're judging it before learning about it.


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f you ask a satanist if he/she believes in god, then he/she will most probably say no, but can there be a satan without a god?


Satanists don't worship Satan.


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also whats The Religion hubbabaloo?


the children that you spit on as they try to change there worlds, are ammune to your conseltation were quite aware what were going through
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anyone who uses somthing that means deformed as an insult is an idiotBig Grin

if you ask a satanist if he/she believes in god, then he/she will most probably say no, but can there be a satan without a god?


the children that you spit on as they try to change there worlds, are ammune to your conseltation were quite aware what were going through
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Satanism.....
Satan is the figure representing evil and sin in Christian theology. Anyone who worhsips Satan is retarded. And if Satanism isn't the worship of Satan, it shouldn't be called Satan-ism.

As for the more modern Church of Satan, ok fine do whatever, you guys aren't that bad. But why have Satan in your name? That just seems to invite pejudice.


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Then how can you say you don't agree with it? With ignorance comes fear, and with fear comes hate. Learn something before you decide you don't agree with its teachings. Isn't that common sense? I learned about Satanism before I started disliking it. Up until then, I retained an open mind. Albeit, I don't know as much as a Satanist themself, but I did spend a time researching it and reading it. Satanism from LaVey's prespective that is. Talk to a Wiccan before you decide you don't like it. And I mean an adult, no peer will do. Talk to an adult who has been Wiccan for at least six years. They'll tell you enough for you to decide if it's good or not. Wicca's teachings are nothing but love and light. I don't even dislike that; it has its merits and also its dowfalls.


It's main aims I agree with, but some of it's inner philosophies (reading religioustolerance.org) I'm not too keen on. I know it's not THE religion, because I've already found The Religion.

And really, if I'm not attacking it, why does it much matter?


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Then how can you say you don't agree with it? With ignorance comes fear, and with fear comes hate. Learn something before you decide you don't agree with its teachings. Isn't that common sense? I learned about Satanism before I started disliking it. Up until then, I retained an open mind. Albeit, I don't know as much as a Satanist themself, but I did spend a time researching it and reading it. Satanism from LaVey's prespective that is. Talk to a Wiccan before you decide you don't like it. And I mean an adult, no peer will do. Talk to an adult who has been Wiccan for at least six years. They'll tell you enough for you to decide if it's good or not. Wicca's teachings are nothing but love and light. I don't even dislike that; it has its merits and also its dowfalls.


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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It's Wicca, not Wiccanism.


Okay, thanks for the correction. I'm not too familiar with the religion.


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It's Wicca, not Wiccanism.


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I know that you think that I don't like Satanism because a lot of people think it's rituals and stuff like that, but let me tell you something. Religions that have those sort of rituals, such as wiccanism, I have absolutely NOTHING wrong with. Today a good friend of me told me that she was a Wiccan, and she probably was afraid I'd blow up, but I just told her, that's completely fine. I really don't care. Wiccanism, though I don't agree with it, doesn't disturb me.

SATANISM does.


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DO YOU THINK IT IS JUDGED SO BAD BECAUSE IN IS "NORMAL" TO BELIVE IN GOD OR BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVEN'T LEARNED ENUF ABOUT IT TO ACCEPT IT?


why you ask - because youre an idiot that doesnt know how to spell..or write a sentence for that matter. Get some learnin' and then come back to us with your argument...


"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." - James Madison
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threads like what exactly, care to elaborate?


the children that you spit on as they try to change there worlds, are ammune to your conseltation were quite aware what were going through
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Originally posted by LEVIATHAN:
DO YOU THINK IT IS JUDGED SO BAD BECAUSE IN IS "NORMAL" TO BELIVE IN GOD OR BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVEN'T LEARNED ENUF ABOUT IT TO ACCEPT IT?
First off, when you speak of, "DO YOU THINK IT IS JUDGED SO BAD" what is the IT that you are talking about? Second, learn how to have a complete thought and how to communicate it to others properly. Thirdly, learn how to spell. Finally, stop making threads like this.


I have not yet reached my goal, and I am not perfect. But Christ has taken hold of me. So I keep on running and struggling to take hold of the prize. My friends, I don't feel that I have already arrived. But I forget what is behind, and I struggle for wha
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i think people think satanism is strange and wierd because there not prepared to understand the world through the eyes of a satanist, they feel that if you are a satanist you are evil and want to kill everything, also society is extremly narrow minded about things it doesnt understand....i do think though, that to be a satanist you do have to believe in god or atleast christianity, because can there be a satan with out a god?


the children that you spit on as they try to change there worlds, are ammune to your conseltation were quite aware what were going through
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i think people judge satanists badly because no-one understands or whants to understand there point of view on religion, god or anything for that matter...i do think though, that if you want to be a satanist you have to eblieve in god or christianity because satan was first mentioned in teh bible


the children that you spit on as they try to change there worlds, are ammune to your conseltation were quite aware what were going through
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