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Picture of zzyzx
Registered: May 29, 2005
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I thought the Bible was the word of God.....
Did God not know things?


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Picture of Baber
Registered: May 23, 2005
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it was written when they didn't know things.


prove it


When God speaks, reason must be silent. - Martin Luther
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth"

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That just says the Earth is a circle, not a sphere.

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What are you trying to say?

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That it is not correct.


That line (and perhaps more) is not correct because it was written when they didn't know things.


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Registered: May 23, 2005
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what isn't correct


When God speaks, reason must be silent. - Martin Luther
Picture of yogore
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That it is not correct.


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Registered: May 23, 2005
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What are you trying to say?


When God speaks, reason must be silent. - Martin Luther
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth"


That just says the Earth is a circle, not a sphere.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: May 23, 2005
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so how come they didnt translate it right the first time? This is suppose to be a very important book you think theyd write it so there werent any questions of whats being said.


The first time the entire Bible was translated was around 1600 in England. The language that they used is quite different from what we use today, especially the vocabulary.


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Registered: May 23, 2005
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It says in Isaiah 40:22

"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth"

Isaiah wrote this about 700bc thats a long time before everyone else got that right.


When God speaks, reason must be silent. - Martin Luther
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Registered: December 25, 2004
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also the bible says that the world is flat! (4 corners of the world)


actually, in my bible it says "4 corners of the LAND"-the land of israel. i read it in ezekiel. maybe you should check your bible again


Isaiah 30:21 "Whether you turn to the right or to the left, your ears will hear a voice behind you, saying, 'This is the way, walk in it.'"
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another question would be this:

If adam and eve were the only people on earth and had many children, how did we multiply. we'd all be retarded. or maybe we are all retarded??


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Registered: May 09, 2005
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Yeah- I can totally relate. But I do believe that some BASIC aspects [like compassion in general] of the bible is true. But overall i do not. LOL. That's why i'm interfaith!


-James-
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Registered: May 09, 2005
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If you want to believe, you will. You obviously don't want to. It takes extreme faith in this world to keep belif in the bible. Most people loose faith in the bible cuz of scientific evidence that says it's wrong. If you want to believe, you'll be able to figure out what god meant by certain things in the bible. For example, Cain's wife. Back then people lived 900-some years. His wife may have also been his sister, or niece, because things like that will often happen with so much time in your life. If you notice, they rarely mention the names of daughters in the bible because they played fairly minor roles in life other than to populate the world at the time.
Adding to what parallax_position said, language was quite different when the bible was written and all bibles we read are translated from hebrew or greek so some translations may end up strange.
And hey, 3rdeyecure, you gotta develop this kinda faith on your own. My parents are strong atheists who do not allow me to go to a protestant church and honestly if they weren't the way they were I'd never have become as strong a Christian as I am now, saying all this stuff. When you're ready, read the bible seeking it's truth not it's faults(which there are none if you seek truth)and eventually none of those dumb freaking tapes will mean anything to you.
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3rdeyecure: I think you'll like the Skeptic's Annotated Bible.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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it sounds like you're finding contradictions between the old and new testaments. look, God gave His people two different agreements in those 2 sections of the bible. the old testaments required things like circumcision, animal sacrifices, and repentance. but after Jesus died for our sins, none of that mattered anymore cuz all our sins were forgiven, and so what if the bible talks about cain's wife. she could have been there all along but the bible just didn't tell about her. and so what if it said "4 corners of the world," that could been corners of a round world.


Isaiah 30:21 "Whether you turn to the right or to the left, your ears will hear a voice behind you, saying, 'This is the way, walk in it.'"
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Registered: January 28, 2005
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The closer you get to God, the stuff that didn't make sense makes sense.


Hmm, what makes you say that one wasn't right before?


Why do I have a conciense, all it does is **** with me?
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you have to look at the context of what is written, just as you would in an english class



so how come they didnt translate it right the first time? This is suppose to be a very important book you think theyd write it so there werent any questions of whats being said.


Its like saying cops didnt beat rodney king, you could say "it depends how you look at it, if you play it backward they help him up and send him on his way"

another thing is, how come the "good" things in the bible are taken litteraly.


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Something to keep in mind when examining the Bible:

you have to look at the context of what is written, just as you would in an english class

the perspective from whom it was written also needs to be taken into account: for example, the view points of the four gospels ... one illustration that helps understand this is the illustration of a car accident. various people may have seen the accident from a number of different angles, and their perspectives of what happened may vary, but essentially they saw the same thing, the same car accident

keep in mind that the bible records events that it does not necessarily approve of because it is a book of history - for example, when david had an affair with bathsheba, there was no sermon right after the story saying "God does not approve of this", but elsewhere in the bible (namely Exodus, in this case "do not commit adultery") we find the "sermons" as we might call them

copying errors may have occured in transcribing, however, these copyists errors do not alter the main idea or context of scripture or the bible's message

i commend you, 3rdeyecure! keep on questioning: I am willing to help you answer any questions that you may have, all though I do not have all the answers, God does, and he is not afraid of your questions, so keep asking! Smile

feel absolutely free to e-mail me whenever you would like and i will try to respond promptly: speedsterchels06@yahoo.com
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Registered: March 24, 2005
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Do any of you realize how many times the bible lies? It's insane! My boyfriend's dad bought these tapes that have every contradiction in the bible. each tape was 1 hour in length and there were 50 of them!!! in one part of the bible it says that god cannnot decieve and then it says for god decieved abraham. then it says all must be circumsised in order to be saved and then it says that that doesn't matter. then in genesis it talks about adam and eve and abel and cain, then it talks about cains wife!! where did she come from??? its like shes just there out of the blue! Then theres a part about how david stopped the sun from spinning around the earth... if that happend there wouldn't be an earth! also the bible says that the world is flat! (4 corners of the world) There is some many more things, too! I would be here forever if i typed them all! I can't understand how anyone can believe in a book full of lies... i mean if you believe in the bible you might as well believe in every book you ever read. How can anyone believe everything that some people wrote about 2000 years ago and not question it??? AHHHHHH! How can anyone be so gullible???

-e



Don't take this the wrong way,but what bible are you reading? I've never heard of that before. Maybe you heard it wrong. Confused Try reading the NLT version if your interested in reading the bible. The bible makes sense.

The closer you get to God, the stuff that didn't make sense makes sense. Wink It sounds clique but its true . It's sort of like one of those quotes that gets you thinking . You don't get it until you've got older , or where put in a situtation the quote talks about. But, as far as some of the stuff your talking about....I honestly don't know where you got that from. Confused
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Registered: March 21, 2003
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3rdeyecure...
have you ever read the bible? seriously... everyone of the things you said have been completely out of literal and historical context. although the bible is the inspired word of God, it was also written at a certain time of history, so it would be written in a way that they would understand it. when the bible says "the four corners or the world" it doesn't literally mean the world has four corners, it was written in that language to a certain people at a certain time period so that they would understand it. if you want to understand it use your brain and apply it to today's applications.
genesis chapter one (the creation story) wasn't written as a history of creation, it was written in a context of how God (the God of abraham and isaac) worked compared with the babylonian gods of the day. God can create chaos and form an order to it, compared to the babylonian story that the gods battled chaos. Reason for saying this, cain's wife came from a different tribe and nation, that was in existence, that genesis one did not specifically talk about, because that was not the purpose of it.
that's all i'm going to say for now because i could talk about this till i'm blue in the face, because people say these so called "contradictions" and have no idea what the hell they are talking about. become educated and then maybe your ideas will be respected
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