Here are ten end times prophecies that are currently being fufilled around the world:

1. Jerusalem becomes an international problem.
"This is the word of the Lord concerning Israel. The Lord, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the spirit of man within him, declares: "I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves. On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness," declares the Lord. "I will keep a watchful eye over the house of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of the nations. Then the leaders of Judah will say in their hearts, `The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God.'-Zechariah 12:1-5

This prophecy is being fufilled today as Judah (Israel) and Jerusalem are under almost constant attack or hatred from its neighbors and governments elsewhere in the world. Yet, despite many wars and years of fighting, Israel is still standing firm, just as the Bible predicted.

2. Jesus's fig tree parable of Israel.
"He told them this parable: "Look at the fig tree and all the trees. When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near." -Luke 21:29-31

Around 30 AD, while Israel and the Jews were ruled by the Roman Empire, Jesus gave his disciples the parable about the fig tree as Israel, as Israel and the Jews were able to return and reclaim sovereignty in 1948.

3. The Messiah will appear after the Jews return to Israel.
""I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and will bring them back to their pasture, where they will be fruitful and increase in number. I will place shepherds over them who will tend them, and they will no longer be afraid or terrified, nor will any be missing," declares the Lord. "The days are coming," declares the Lord, "when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land. In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which he will be called: The Lord Our Righteousness." -Jeremiah 23:3-6

Jeremiah, around 600 BC, prophecied that multitudes of Jews around the world will return to their homeland, as we have witnessed in the last 57 years. Once the return is complete, as the Bible prophecies, the Messiah will reappear to the people of Earth.

4. The Gospel will reach the entire world in the end times.
" And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." -Matthew 24:14

It was hard to imagine, just 100 years ago, that the Gospel could possibly reach the ends of the earth, but through ministry, evangelism, and international media, it has. And this new awakening, as is prophecied, may signal the end.

5. The world will be able to watch the same events at the same time in the end times.
"For three and a half days men from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth." -Revelations 11:9-10

60 years ago, this prophecy stumped theologians and clergy, but now it is obvious. Through international and satellite television and internet, the whole world can now watch the same events at the same time. As the passage goes on to describe, these people sending gifts are forebearers of the antichrist, who will celebrate the death of these men, who we have yet to identify.

6. Zechariah foreshadowed modern warfare.

This prophecy is, in my opinion, the most incredible of all.

"This is the plague with which the Lord will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths."

What else could possibly cause one's flesh to rot while standing still? Eyes to roll in their sockets? Tongues to rot in mouths? None other than nuclear warfare, and at the pace we are going with the crisis in the middle east, nuclear exchanges are very likely.

7. Many people are going to Jerusalem to seek God's favor.
"And many peoples and powerful nations will come to Jerusalem to seek the Lord Almighty and to entreat him."-Zechariah 8:22

2500 years ago, the prophet Zecheriah said that there will come a time when many people will go to Jerusalem to seek and honor God. Since the Jews recaptured Jerusalem in the Six Day's War in 1967, people of all faiths have been flocking to Jerusalem to visit the city.

8. An Army of 200,000,000
"The number of the mounted troops was two hundred million. I heard their number." -Revelations 9:16

With the earth's population nearing 7,000,000,000, it is entirely possible for a coalition of nations (especially in this current time of war) to raise an army of 200,000,000.

9. The troops will cross the Euphrates River
"The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East."-Revelation 16:12

When the book of Revelations was written 1900 years ago, it would have taken a huge natural disaster to stop to flow of the Euphrates River so an army could cross. But today there are a series of dams that allow crossing. The United States Military has also crossed the Euphrates numerous times.

10. People forced to recieve the mark of the beast.
"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (KJV)."
-Revelation 13:16-18

When Revelations was written, it would have been possible for a leader to force anyone to recieve such a mark as was mentioned. But today, with modern technology, things like computer chips and other devices would make it possible for a leader to mark his people.


Well, there you have it. No other religious book has been able to produce these tell tale prophecies that foretell the end times. I hope you're ready.

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we are not discussing this travesty of ideas


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speaking of which, has anyone read the Left Behind books? I read the first one; they're awesome.

What would be extremely amusing, despite the fact that it would mean I am wrong, would be if the rapture did occur, but Jesus left all of the insane evangelists on earth and took up those who actually utilize their capibility of thought.

Anyway, phophecies are in general, based on cold reading. As you should know, cold reading is a prediction so ridiculously vauge, it is very likely to be intrepreted as true at some point. An excellent example would be a horoscope, or reactionary's lovely post.

Whether or not these signs are being fulfilled is a matter of opinion. Isreal is standing strong in reactionary's mind, but not in the minds of everyone, so depending on who is assessing this prediction, we will get different answers.

To actually believe that a God, if any higher power exists, really gives a damn about humans, is self aware, tangible, capable of causing the end of the world et cetera, is totally insane. Believing in the Easter Bunny is more rational than believing in this God.

I would like to point out at this time that the Mayans had a clock that counted down to the end of the world. That countdown ended in 2000.

There is a hypothesis that it will not be the end of the world, but the end of an era of history for mankind, i.e. we become peaceful. That is only a theory.

Prophecy my a**.

You've actually helped to prove my real point, reactionary. Just as I can't use Biblical verses from millenia ago to prove a modern point, you can't use Qu'ranic verses that are similarly outdated.

In other words, the Bible and the Qu'ran are obsolete, and not to be used to justify actions today. If the opposite were true, we might as well be burning bulls and sprinkling their blood on the ground because it smells good to God. The Bible says so, after all.

Besides, it even says in Deuteronomy that you're supposed to follow the rules laid down in that book no matter what. Start reading from 28:15. I stopped after the second "cursed shalt thou be". Got a bit repetitive with all the curses you'll get if you don't follow God's rules.

By the way...what makes you so sure Moses wrote the book of Deuteronomy? He didn't, you know. The so-called "Books of Moses" were written by four distinct sources, not one man. If Moses really did write them all, then why does he document his own death in Deuteronomy 34:5? I wish I could do that, write from beyond the grave.

And for a final rousing cry, read 13:6-10, 13:12-16, and 17:2-7. If those don't clearly say to kill people with other beliefs, I don't know what they say.

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Originally posted by clpo13:
Deut. 6:15

"...because the Lord your God, who is present with you, is a jealous God. The anger of the Lord your God would be kindled against you and He ould destroy you from the face of the earth." (NRSV)
Don't quite know how that pertains to a comparison to Surah 5, seeing as its more of a warning to me (the reader).

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Deut. 12:30

"...take care that you are not snared into imitating them, after they have been destroyed before you: do not inquire concerning their gods, saying, "How did these nations worship their gods? I want to do the same.""

These verses are a warning against pagan idoltry. Don't know what you're getting at.

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Deut. 17:2-7

"If there is found among you, in one of your towns that the Lord your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the Lord your God, and transgresses his convenant by going to serve other gods and worshipping them- whether the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have forbidden- and if it is reported to you or you hear of it, and you make a thorough inquiry, and the charge is proved true that such an abhorrent thing has occured in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has committed this crime and you shall stone that woman or man to death. On the evidence of two or three witnesses the death sentence shall be executed; a person must not be put to death on the evidence of one witness. The hands of the witnesses shall be the first raised against the person to execute the death penalty, and afterwards the hands of the people. So you shall purge the evil from your midst."

Let's break this little tidbit down, shall we?
-This law is only for Jews leaving in towns that God had delievered to them after the wilderness(verse 2)
-This law only applies to Jews in Israel (verse 4)
-Therefore, this law no longer applies, and if it did, it would not apply to Christians in America.

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Oh, and do you remember that bit a while ago where women who are raped in Muslim countries are at fault? Well, read Deuteronomy 22:23-24.

Your attempt to discredit the Bible through Deuteronomy is so far gone, I'm surprised they still let you read the Bible. The Book of Deuteronomy was dictated by Moses as laws for the time period of the 40th year, on the first day of the eleventh month that the Jews had been wandering the wilderness beyond Jordan in the land of Moab. These laws were enacted following the defeat of King Sihon of the Amorites, who reigned in Ashtaroth and in Endrei.

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Deuteronomy is a bloody chapter.

For a bloody time.

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All about slaying people of other faiths and whatnot.

You're also talking about a faith based society that had been fighting a war and wandering through the wilderness for 40 years.

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What's that sound like, hmm? Oh yes, that "book of hate" you keep talking about.

Ha, don't put words in my mouth, I've never said that.

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and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East.

Kings from the East, eh? I don't think China is going to be invading Israel any time soon.

By the way, reactionary, you're taking Revelation at face-value, which you really shouldn't. There is so much hidden in between the lines, that you can't "predict" the end of the world from it.

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Originally posted by reactionary05:
1. Jerusalem becomes an international problem.


This prophecy is being fufilled today as Judah (Israel) and Jerusalem are under almost constant attack or hatred from its neighbors and governments elsewhere in the world. Yet, despite many wars and years of fighting, Israel is still standing firm, just as the Bible predicted.

Errr..This isn't very specific in my opinion.

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2. Jesus's fig tree parable of Israel.
Around 30 AD, while Israel and the Jews were ruled by the Roman Empire, Jesus gave his disciples the parable about the fig tree as Israel, as Israel and the Jews were able to return and reclaim sovereignty in 1948.

Who defines near? It has been 50 years has it not?

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3. The Messiah will appear after the Jews return to Israel.
Jeremiah, around 600 BC, prophecied that multitudes of Jews around the world will return to their homeland, as we have witnessed in the last 57 years. Once the return is complete, as the Bible prophecies, the Messiah will reappear to the people of Earth.

Ok well we're nowhere near getting all the jews back to isreal so back to the drawing board.

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4. The Gospel will reach the entire world in the end times.
" And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." -Matthew 24:14

It was hard to imagine, just 100 years ago, that the Gospel could possibly reach the ends of the earth, but through ministry, evangelism, and international media, it has. And this new awakening, as is prophecied, may signal the end.

The gospel isn't currently being preached everywhere. Yes the technology is there but it simply isn't happening.

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5. The world will be able to watch the same events at the same time in the end times.
60 years ago, this prophecy stumped theologians and clergy, but now it is obvious. Through international and satellite television and internet, the whole world can now watch the same events at the same time. As the passage goes on to describe, these people sending gifts are forebearers of the antichrist, who will celebrate the death of these men, who we have yet to identify.

The technology will still be available most likely 500 years from now. So why is the prophocey for today?

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"This is the plague with which the Lord will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths."

What else could possibly cause one's flesh to rot while standing still? Eyes to roll in their sockets? Tongues to rot in mouths? None other than nuclear warfare, and at the pace we are going with the crisis in the middle east, nuclear exchanges are very likely.

Ok...Still not hpapening today but I understand your point.

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7. Many people are going to Jerusalem to seek God's favor.
"And many peoples and powerful nations will come to Jerusalem to seek the Lord Almighty and to entreat him."-Zechariah 8:22

2500 years ago, the prophet Zecheriah said that there will come a time when many people will go to Jerusalem to seek and honor God. Since the Jews recaptured Jerusalem in the Six Day's War in 1967, people of all faiths have been flocking to Jerusalem to visit the city.

People have been going there for the last 5000 years. To be mentioned like this there would have to be a very dramatic rise.

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With the earth's population nearing 7,000,000,000, it is entirely possible for a coalition of nations (especially in this current time of war) to raise an army of 200,000,000.

Possible. Yes. But not happening.

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"The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East."-Revelation 16:12

When the book of Revelations was written 1900 years ago, it would have taken a huge natural disaster to stop to flow of the Euphrates River so an army could cross. But today there are a series of dams that allow crossing. The United States Military has also crossed the Euphrates numerous times.

So instead of angels, there are dams?

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10. People forced to recieve the mark of the beast.
"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (KJV)."
-Revelation 13:16-18

When Revelations was written, it would have been possible for a leader to force anyone to recieve such a mark as was mentioned. But today, with modern technology, things like computer chips and other devices would make it possible for a leader to mark his people.

Yes again it's possible. But I don't see it being done.

People have been making end time prophecies since the beggining of time. None have been right so far and this just convinced me that we are safe for a long time.

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The Koran states that Muslims are to "slay unbelievers whereever you find them" (Surah 5). You will not find anything of that nature in the Bible.

No? Try these on for size:

Deut. 6:15
Deut. 12:30
Deut. 17:2-7

Oh, and do you remember that bit a while ago where women who are raped in Muslim countries are at fault? Well, read Deuteronomy 22:23-24.

Deuteronomy is a bloody chapter. All about slaying people of other faiths and whatnot. What's that sound like, hmm? Oh yes, that "book of hate" you keep talking about.

Reactionary, you forget the rebuilding of Babylon (Iraq).

I thought that Mark Hitchcock's Books on the End Times were very enlightening and interesting. His written a series of small books on the End Times, each I hold as invaluable and suggest that anyone wanting to learn more about eh End Times should read his series.

http://www.endtimesanswers.com/index_flash.aspx

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Originally posted by clpo13:
Looks like Christianity and Islam aren't too different, eh, reactionary?

Monotheism is one of the only connections I can see. Islam has Five Pillars, Christianty does not. To be saved in Islam, one must conform to the Five Pillars and be a believer. One must just be a believer to be saved in Christianity. Islam contains the notion of Jihad, or struggle (contrary to popular belief, jihad does not mean Holy War). The Koran states that Muslims are to "slay unbelievers whereever you find them" (Surah 5). You will not find anything of that nature in the Bible.

Here's an interesting tidbit about how Muslims view the end times. Among other things, here are a few signs that the world is coming to an end:

-Women singers and dancing become commonplace
-Poor nations compete to build tall buildings in their lands
-Children will disobey their parents
-A great wealth will be found under the Tigris and Euphrates rivers

By that, you'd think the end of the world really is coming soon. If it ever does, that is.

Looks like Christianity and Islam aren't too different, eh, reactionary?

Hah, this sounds like one of Joey's threads.

Really, Christians also believed the world would end during the Middle Ages and the bible as proof. And it's been more than 500 years since that.

And let's not forget the whole "The world will end on the year 2000!" crap.

Face it, the world's end isn't near, there are just some people who are actually shut down enough to fall back into the "prophecies" which were already being "fulfilled" (sp?) before.

Oh, I am not saying it is not. I am saying that if it is, then it will take several years for the temple to be built for him to take it over.

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Originally posted by Jenos:
One major point you forgotten to touch on, is that the Antichrist will desecrate the Temple of Israel and call it his own. The Temple was torn down hundreds of years ago and has never been rebuilt. Where the temple stood is now a Muslim mosque. To get that mosque torn down and a temple built for the Antichrist to desecrate it will be several years at least.

Why would the Temple Mount not be the temple of the antichrist?

The End Time are not even close to being fulfilled, even if you go by the Bible.

One major point you forgotten to touch on, is that the Antichrist will desecrate the Temple of Israel and call it his own. The Temple was torn down hundreds of years ago and has never been rebuilt. Where the temple stood is now a Muslim mosque. To get that mosque torn down and a temple built for the Antichrist to desecrate it will be several years at least.