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Registered: August 31, 2004
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Okay so how did earth come to be . I believe it was created by God but what do you believe?
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Registered: January 22, 2005
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quote: Do you know God? Have you met him, read up on his medical history,
I'd like to read that if you have a copy...
Only simple and quiet words will ripen of themselves. For a whirlwind does not last a whole morning, nor does a sudden shower last the entire day.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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quote: Who are you to be finding flaws in His teachings?
Who are you to say he's infallible? Do you know God? Have you met him, read up on his medical history, seen the bit where it says "note: patient is infallible, do not attempt to argue with"? No? Then you're no better off than the rest of us at knowing just what's going on.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: December 05, 2006
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quote: Originally posted by WorthWaitingFor: I'm trying to stop cursing but when people say things like this, I cannot refrain. quote: Originally posted by orangegoddess021706: quote: Originally posted by WorthWaitingFor:
Why do you put Christian in quotation marks? It seems derogatory and, if it is, I don't appreciate it.
It is entirely possible to be a Christian and be open minded and see flaws in things.
I am a prime example, being a Christian who is pro-gay marriage and pro-choice.
God doesnt agree in same sex marriage. since God created man and woman only but that doesnt mean that gays are outcasts. Gays and lesbians are part of God's creations. But He simply doesnt like men and women who are straight then marry gays. Gays are born as men physically but it is their sexual preference that is different, so gays ought to look and dress up like men. Christ doesnt like long hair in men and make up and cross dressing for men as well as gays. it is against His will. so Christ didnt have long hair as wat some groups would like to believe. Lesbians the same ought to dress and look like real women - long hair as it is pleasing to God, no make up and no bling blings and no trousers or pants. not all Christians are Christians coz some of them are taught otherwise from the same umbrella of religion like the so called evangelical group, teh Born again groups, et al. so many groups, so many opinionated ideas. not united. its alarming. it doesnt conform with God's plan.
I am not going to point out how WRONG you are on every point because others have already begun that and it is not worth my energy unless you are persistent in it. DO NOT fucking talk to me about what God/the Bible/Anything Christian says about gay people, homosexuals, lesbians, gayness, same sex marriage, or ANYTHING involving people of the same sex because GUESS WHAT??? I KNOW MORE THAN YOU ABOUT IT! You can pick out every single freakin verse out of the Good Book about those subjects - ANYTHING - and I will gladly show you how they do NOT say that homosexuality is against God/Christianity/the Bible. I assure, orange, I AM a Christian. Do NOT say "not all Christians are Christians" in reference to ME...if anything, you ought to say it in reference to yourself because you are clearly derogatory to people you should embrace with love. YOU don't know what conforms with God's fucking plan because YOU don't know what that plan is. </rant>
Do you know what God's "fucking plan" is? Because unless you do, that last statement goes either way. YOU don't know what conforms with God's plan either. And may I remind you, interpretations of the Bible vary, and depending on who you ask, Same sex marriage/gayness/etc. was very much against God's "Policy". There's a difference between embracing a person and embracing their choices. Ever heard "Love the sinner, Hate the sin"? I mean, if you know the Bible and Christianity so well, you must. Yes, it is entirely possible to be a christian and find "flaws in things". However, a big chunk of christianity is that God is infallible. Who are you to be finding flaws in His teachings? |
Registered: June 14, 2004
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quote: Originally posted by Maya: I think in this case you are DEFINETLY excused 
Haha...thanks. quote: Good job, Worth.
Thanks.
Belief makes things real/Makes things feel, feel alright/Belief makes things true/Things like you, you and I
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Registered: February 05, 2005
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following the trend: <stupidity><deviated faith> quote: Christ doesnt like long hair in men and make up and cross dressing for men as well as gays.
</stupidity></deviated faith> that is a rather accurate definition of her statements so far. lmao HTML jokes own
If god existed he'd be right winged
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Registered: January 22, 2005
Posts: 716
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quote: </rant>
Aahh, html jokes.
Only simple and quiet words will ripen of themselves. For a whirlwind does not last a whole morning, nor does a sudden shower last the entire day.
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Registered: February 05, 2005
Posts: 928
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I think we scared her away quote: Christ didnt have long hair as wat some groups would like to believe
I forgot to point this out before, it so happens that during Christs lifetime men having long hair was the norm. Out of everything regarding christ, most of wich I regard as mythological or fictitious being a nonbeliever, one of the few things that is probably true is that he had long hair, as it was cultural standard.
If god existed he'd be right winged
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Registered: November 11, 2006
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Good job, Worth.
My friend is gay, and some of his family had a really hard time dealing with it because they are big Christians and all that, and they told him he was going to hell.
ummm that is so horrible.
So God doesnt love Gay people enough to get to heaven? Thats real nice of him. I know theres more to that ordeal, but I just think its aweful.
Growing up, my parents told me that God loved everyone and he was this great person and everything.. (my parents arent necesarally Christians, they dont have a religion or any of that, but they beleive in God, im pretty sure.)
But if this is the case... God doesnt seem like this wonderful, great being that I thought he was.
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Registered: November 27, 2004
Posts: 1322
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quote: Originally posted by WorthWaitingFor:
I'm trying to stop cursing but when people say things like this, I cannot refrain.
I think in this case you are DEFINETLY excused
Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Registered: June 14, 2004
Posts: 2721
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I'm trying to stop cursing but when people say things like this, I cannot refrain. quote: Originally posted by orangegoddess021706: quote: Originally posted by WorthWaitingFor:
Why do you put Christian in quotation marks? It seems derogatory and, if it is, I don't appreciate it.
It is entirely possible to be a Christian and be open minded and see flaws in things.
I am a prime example, being a Christian who is pro-gay marriage and pro-choice.
God doesnt agree in same sex marriage. since God created man and woman only but that doesnt mean that gays are outcasts. Gays and lesbians are part of God's creations. But He simply doesnt like men and women who are straight then marry gays. Gays are born as men physically but it is their sexual preference that is different, so gays ought to look and dress up like men. Christ doesnt like long hair in men and make up and cross dressing for men as well as gays. it is against His will. so Christ didnt have long hair as wat some groups would like to believe. Lesbians the same ought to dress and look like real women - long hair as it is pleasing to God, no make up and no bling blings and no trousers or pants. not all Christians are Christians coz some of them are taught otherwise from the same umbrella of religion like the so called evangelical group, teh Born again groups, et al. so many groups, so many opinionated ideas. not united. its alarming. it doesnt conform with God's plan.
I am not going to point out how WRONG you are on every point because others have already begun that and it is not worth my energy unless you are persistent in it. DO NOT fucking talk to me about what God/the Bible/Anything Christian says about gay people, homosexuals, lesbians, gayness, same sex marriage, or ANYTHING involving people of the same sex because GUESS WHAT??? I KNOW MORE THAN YOU ABOUT IT! You can pick out every single freakin verse out of the Good Book about those subjects - ANYTHING - and I will gladly show you how they do NOT say that homosexuality is against God/Christianity/the Bible. I assure, orange, I AM a Christian. Do NOT say "not all Christians are Christians" in reference to ME...if anything, you ought to say it in reference to yourself because you are clearly derogatory to people you should embrace with love. YOU don't know what conforms with God's fucking plan because YOU don't know what that plan is. </rant>
Belief makes things real/Makes things feel, feel alright/Belief makes things true/Things like you, you and I
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Registered: November 27, 2004
Posts: 1322
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quote:
God doesnt agree in same sex marriage.
did IT tell you this personally? No I didn't think so. Therefore don't state it as a fact. Also what about people that don't believe in God(like me for instance), why should we care that your so called God doesn't agree? That's not a reason in my opinion... You can't use religion to back up your discriminatory views on same sex marriage, or no, you shouldn't if you want people to listen to you. quote: [But He simply doesnt like men and women who are straight then marry gays. Gays are born as men physically but it is their sexual preference that is different, so gays ought to look and dress up like men.
Woah what the fuck are you talking about? Your sexual orientation and your gender are two different things. And who determines how a man is supposed to dress and look? It would be SOCIETY(NOT GOD)that has given us a certain image(which we don't have abide to) > what the fuck I have no idea what you are trying to say here. quote: it is against His will.
If I were God I'd be sending you directly to hell the second you die for implying that you KNOW what it's will is. what the fuck. quote: Lesbians the same ought to dress and look like real women - long hair as it is pleasing to God, no make up and no bling blings and no trousers or pants.
that's hilarious... quote:
so many groups, so many opinionated ideas. not united. its alarming. it doesnt conform with God's plan.
yes because you are the only one that has it right, correct?
Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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quote: It is entirely possible to be a Christian and be open minded and see flaws in things.
I tried this, but I found that it was impossible to remain Christian after what I was finding out. There are too many flaws in religion in general for me to justify being a part of it. quote: Christ doesnt like long hair in men
Ironic, considering the picture of Jesus we all have. quote: it is against His will.
A question: how can you, a human, claim to know or understand what God's will is? Wouldn't that imply some sort of relationship with God, which you have said is impossible?
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: October 22, 2006
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quote: Discipleship is carrying God's cross, turning away from this woldly mundane life, and bearing others' burden so as to fulfil Christ's law. maybe your former pastor didnt know that and/or dont wanna let you know about that.
Been there done that quit and yeah my pastor, as much as he's a bastard, did teach me all that - and yes In your eyes this church was a "true church" (I put it in quotations this time because the term true church is different for different people) but I decided to go out and discover things on my own and not blindly beleive everything someone was telling me. And your question on if I back slided... the answer is yes according to you I did, but according to me I made the right decision to move on with my life. quote: it doesnt conform with God's plan.
So you're saying God isn't in control? Didn't you just finish going on in another thread that everything that happens is according to God's plan. quote: Why do you put Christian in quotation marks? It seems derogatory and, if it is, I don't appreciate it.
I apologize I didn't mean for it to be derogatory. I put in quotation because I still beleive a lot of the same things that Christians do I just no longer fall under the title. OH! And I agree with speed. You should grow up, The Bible said slavery was okay back in the day too. EDIT: I think I'm having too much fun with this
J'irai bien.
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Registered: February 05, 2005
Posts: 928
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quote: Christ doesnt like long hair in men and make up and cross dressing for men as well as gays. it is against His will. so Christ didnt have long hair as wat some groups would like to believe. Lesbians the same ought to dress and look like real women - long hair as it is pleasing to God, no make up and no bling blings and no trousers or pants.
I try to respect other people opinions, even when I criticize them, but you deserve to be smacked for this. No, that wouldn't do it, the pain would just help you commute with god. I don't feel it necessary to make any sort of well thought response to that. Someone please give her EST or IST. quote:
EllieN just won life
If god existed he'd be right winged
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Registered: November 09, 2006
Posts: 144
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quote: Originally posted by WorthWaitingFor:
Why do you put Christian in quotation marks? It seems derogatory and, if it is, I don't appreciate it.
It is entirely possible to be a Christian and be open minded and see flaws in things.
I am a prime example, being a Christian who is pro-gay marriage and pro-choice.
God doesnt agree in same sex marriage. since God created man and woman only but that doesnt mean that gays are outcasts. Gays and lesbians are part of God's creations. But He simply doesnt like men and women who are straight then marry gays. Gays are born as men physically but it is their sexual preference that is different, so gays ought to look and dress up like men. Christ doesnt like long hair in men and make up and cross dressing for men as well as gays. it is against His will. so Christ didnt have long hair as wat some groups would like to believe. Lesbians the same ought to dress and look like real women - long hair as it is pleasing to God, no make up and no bling blings and no trousers or pants. not all Christians are Christians coz some of them are taught otherwise from the same umbrella of religion like the so called evangelical group, teh Born again groups, et al. so many groups, so many opinionated ideas. not united. its alarming. it doesnt conform with God's plan.
matt.13:16 But blesssed are your eyes for they see:and your ears, for they hear.
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Registered: November 09, 2006
Posts: 144
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quote: Originally posted by Trisscar:
9 months. - Yeah in that amount of time, you still lack a lot of the fundamental knowledge that comes with being a Christian and you still suffer from being over zelouse for the cause. Trust me I discipled youth for years.
well in this amount of time, i am pround to say that this group iv joined is unlike any other so-called Christian group who are just babbling their way thru kind words. We've are being taught. it is through time and tests that a Christian can attain salvation. well, if you've joined in a false-Christ group and you backed out, good for you. but if you are already in the true Church and you back slided.. bad. really bad. Discipleship is carrying God's cross, turning away from this woldly mundane life, and bearing others' burden so as to fulfil Christ's law. maybe your former pastor didnt know that and/or dont wanna let you know about that.
matt.13:16 But blesssed are your eyes for they see:and your ears, for they hear.
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Registered: June 14, 2004
Posts: 2721
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Why do you put Christian in quotation marks? It seems derogatory and, if it is, I don't appreciate it. It is entirely possible to be a Christian and be open minded and see flaws in things. I am a prime example, being a Christian who is pro-gay marriage and pro-choice.
Belief makes things real/Makes things feel, feel alright/Belief makes things true/Things like you, you and I
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Registered: October 22, 2006
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I know what you mean clpo13 - I stopped concidering myself a "Christian" for about a half a year now. You find yourself really looking at things differently, and you're not so closed minded and are able to see the flaws in things and truths in others that you wouldn't ever had discovered before.
J'irai bien.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6044
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Heh, I've learned more about Christianity in the two years since I stopped considering myself one than I ever learned in the fourteen years I actually was one.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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