If they can then why don't they? They have the money to watch some mice do their mating song, why can't they count the hairs on our heads.

In the Bible it saids God knows how manys hairs are on our head.

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I bet science can't tell you how many hairs you have on your head.
If they can then show me.

It's called counting. Currently nobody has invested the money and time it would take to make an effective model of how many hairs are on your head at any one point. There are too many variables and the outcome is too worthless.

Science COULD do it but nobody wants to. What science CAN do is tell you how many calories you're burning as you're typing a poor attempt at discrediting modern knowledge.

I bet science can't tell you how many hairs you have on your head.
If they can then show me.

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OK so where did those elements come from? And don't give some big long story and all, just give me the fact.

Here are the facts, fool.

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Type I Supernovas

In the 1930s Fritz Zwicky, Walter Baade, and Rudolph Minkowski developed several models of supernova events. In a star about to become a Type I supernova, the star's hydrogen is exhausted, and the star's gravity pulling inward overcomes the forces of its thermonuclear fires pushing the material outward. As the core begins to contract, the remaining hydrogen ignites in a shell, swelling the star into a giant and beginning the process of helium burning. Eventually the star is left with a still contracting core of carbon and oxygen. If the star, now a white dwarf, has a nearby stellar companion, it will begin to pull matter from the companion. In many stars the excess matter is blown off periodically as a nova; if it is not, the star continues to get more and more massive until the matter in the core begins to contract again. When the star gets so massive that it passes Chandrasekhar's limit (1.44 times the sun's mass), it collapses very quickly and all of its matter explodes.

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Type II Supernovas

Type II supernovas involve massive stars that burn their gases out within a few million years. If the star is massive enough, it will continue to undergo nucleosynthesis after the core has turned to helium and then to carbon. Heavier elements such as phosphorus, aluminum, and sulfur are created in shorter and shorter periods of time until silicon results. It takes less than a day for the silicon to fuse into iron; the iron core gets hotter and hotter and in less than a second the core collapses. Electrons are forced into the nuclei of their atoms, forming neutrons and neutrinos, and the star explodes, throwing as much as 90% of its material into space at speeds exceeding 18,630 mi (30,000 km) per sec. After the supernova explosion, there remains a small, hot neutron star, possibly visible as a pulsar, surrounded by an expanding cloud, such as that seen in the Crab Nebula.

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Most heavy elements are created by nuclear reactions in supernovas and then returned to space.

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2050&dekey=supernova&gwp=8&curtab=2050_1&linktext=supernova

Basically, the extreme heat fuses hydrogen atoms and alters their structures, making different elements, and then the exploding star ejects all of its material including the new elements into space, where it is used/recycled by other stars, planets (Earth), molecular clouds, etc and what not.

It's simple really. Star dies, fuses hydrogen, has explosive diarrhea, new elements help create life on Earth. Remember that every creature on Earth is Carbon-based, and Carbon is a common product of supernovas. Without it, life would probably never take place. I can keep going, if you want me to.

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Just say they were created by GOD.

That's too easy. Besides, some elements on the periodic table were man-made. The fact is, all elements were either created by stars or man. Sucks, huh?

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OK so where did those elements come from? And don't give some big long story and all, just give me the fact. Just say they were created by GOD.

But that may not be the fact. You can't prove it. Thus it isn't fact. We don't know the facts. The greatest minds on Earth don't know the facts. So don't act like you do.

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You said created elements and created dying stars.

Oops, looks like you forgot a word. She said:

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complex molecules, which were created with elements, created by dying stars.

Yes, the elements were created, but perhaps God wasn't involved. Perhaps the elements were created by a random process with no specific end in mind. In fact, we know that helium is produced by the hydrogen fusion reaction inside the core of a star. And hydrogen was created during the instant the Universe began, where electrons were forcibly combined with protons to create the element we now call hydrogen.

Your problem, rugar, is that you misread and assume. Fix those problems.

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And don't give some big long story and all, just give me the fact.
Just say they were created by GOD.

I don't want a big long story saying god created it, just give me facts. Just because it cannot be explained as of now by whoever said that does not mean obviously god must have done it. That's like say, I don't know why things fall to the ground so obviously god must be pushing it down.

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It came from a single celled organism created through the fusion of complex molecules, which were created with elements, created by dying stars. When the Earth cooled and the oceans receded, that organism had to adapt or risk not being able to pass on it's genetic material. And there are the complex factors that include the changing climate and the appearance of new organisms that determine whether the flower exists or not.

OK so where did those elements come from? And don't give some big long story and all, just give me the fact.
Just say they were created by GOD.
You said created elements and created dying stars.
So you do believe that the stars and elements were created?

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They believe that we were formed from NONLIVING ORGANISMS, but yet they can not prove we were formed from nonliving organisms.

Some scientists think otherwise. In my opinion, you need to look at things from a microscopic scale. I mean smaller than DNA.

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I have proff that they said that too. It is in my Biology book. Thank You Very Much.

Your biology book has nothing on Nova. Don't rely on one source.

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Science tried to prove stuff happened by their own means, but when it comes right down to it they have to say God created it.

Wrong.

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And You know this to be true.

Nope.

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If not then tell me where did a flower come from?

It came from a single celled organism created through the fusion of complex molecules, which were created with elements, created by dying stars. When the Earth cooled and the oceans receded, that organism had to adapt or risk not being able to pass on it's genetic material. And there are the complex factors that include the changing climate and the appearance of new organisms that determine whether the flower exists or not. But I think it would be logical that the flowers you and I know and love now, probably wouldn't exist without the aid of insects. And in the bible, plants exist before animals. Impossible. Animals can't exist without plants and plants can't exist without animals.

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Where did the little cells in that flower come from?

The elements.

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Why does the flower bloom?

So it can attract insects and other nectar eating animals. Those creatures are what they need to pollinate other flowers and ensure their species' survival. I heard somewhere that the inside of a flower petal reflects ultraviolet light really well. And many insects can see that.

I agree with iluvJC247.

It saids in the 1st book in the Holy Bible {KJV} Genesis 1:1
In the Begining GOD created Heavens and the Earth.

Science doesn't believe it. They believe that we were formed from NONLIVING ORGANISMS, but yet they can not prove we were formed from nonliving organisms. I have proff that they said that too. It is in my Biology book. Thank You Very Much.

Science tried to prove stuff happened by their own means, but when it comes right down to it they have to say God created it. Thank You
And You know this to be true.

If not then tell me where did a flower come from? Where did the little cells in that flower come from? Why does the flower bloom?

I don't think you can give me anyother reason than that GOD created it and made it that way.

What an eerie coincidence...I was about to create a thread about this exact subject...

This is my first post, exactly one year ago:

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I believe in the Big Bang (unless it is disproven by scientific inquiry in the future) and evolution. Both were a series of accidents and quincidences, it's depressing, but one learns to live with it

this year has been fun kids. I love you all.

The flaw in your reasoning, iluvJC, is that there has to be a painter-maker-maker. It's essentially the "if theres a watch, there must be a watch maker" and a 'watch-maker-maker.' And a 'watch-maker-maker-maker.' I'll stop there, but it could be infinite.

You say that everything had to be designed by God. That would essentially rule out free will.

The Bible never cites the existence of dinosaurs yet we have irrefutable evidence that these creatures existed.

Also, some humans are born with tailbones (considered a defect at birth, and is promptly removed). If humans once had tails and now do not, is that not conclusive evidence of some forms of evolution?

Or, you know, you could all base your beliefs on an ancient book of fairy tales.

Well I personally believe that the Earth was created by God.And my example for why is this:
When you look at a painting you have to relize
that someone painted that picture,it wasn't just
banged into exsistance,SOOOO if you look at the sunset you relize it's like a painting and behind every painting has an artist behind it.
So God is the artist and the world is is work of art.Also every building has a designer so the world and everything in it had to be designed by someone ....God. Again this is just what I believe so you don't need to attack it or me.

I don't believe in any sort of God, and I find the idea that this world was created by some superior being rather immature. I mean, where's the proof? What about the dinosaurs? Or Lucy? All the neanderthal evidence- did your 'God' kill them off because they were imperfect? And if they were imperfect, does that discredit your 'God' because a perfect being can only create perfect things?

Dangit. Now you got me rambling.

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Accident is an inaccurate term to be using.[/QUOTE]

thats true in some cases, but spontaneous mutations, which is where most variety in a given specie can trace its oragin, is totally accidental and unpredictable.

Evolution has absolutely nothing to do with how the earth came about nor does it explain how life first came about, that is abiogensis.
This seems to occur consistently, so again here are two accurate definitions for evolution:

Evolution is a process that results in heritable changes in a population spread over many generations."

Evolution can be precisely defined as any change in the frequency of alleles within a gene pool from one generation to the next."

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Accident is an inaccurate term to be using.

I have no idea at all. You can't really prove either one. Some people believe the Bible is a story made up to amuse people, others don't think that way. And you can't prove that it's real or not. And scientists don't know how or when the earth was made or be 100% sure that we evolved. So there is no wrong answer in my opinion.

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Originally posted by geminiangel521:
Creations is ridiculous.

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Thank You! I could go on unto the ending of the earth...

Creations is ridiculous.