9 months. - Yeah in that amount of time, you still lack a lot of the fundamental knowledge that comes with being a Christian and you still suffer from being over zelouse for the cause. Trust me I discipled youth for years.

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Originally posted by Trisscar:
OrangeGoddesse.

Just wondering, how long have you been a "Christian"

9months i was bptised this february 2006 on our group
and i tell ya, iv learned so much.
eyes that can see , and ears that are able to hear, which others can't and dont.

Even if something has a use, that doesn't mean it was created with that purpose in mind. I'm sure iron ore wasn't created with the intent to be refined into steel to make airplane wings. I doubt sheep were created to be shaved in order to make their wool into fleece jackets.

OrangeGoddesse.

Just wondering, how long have you been a "Christian"

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Originally posted by clpo13:

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Originally posted by orangegoddess021706:
i believe that everything that man cant do like the earth, the space, the galaxies, the impossible is from God period.

Simply because humans didn't do it doesn't necessarily mean someone had to.

oh yes some one had to because it will be of use. for future use. the cockroaches, we see these creatures as the eww gross worthless creatures but to some animal he is his supper.

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Originally posted by orangegoddess021706:
i believe that everything that man cant do like the earth, the space, the galaxies, the impossible is from God period.

Simply because humans didn't do it doesn't necessarily mean someone had to.

I think we evolve from creation...meaning God (or, if you're not a Christian or Jew, just some higher power of some sort) created us from the start and then evolution (which was also a process created by that higher power/God) allowed us to change over time in order to adapt when we needed to.

Everyone is always one or the other...but doesn't it make sense to have one then the other?

i believe that everything that man cant do like the earth, the space, the galaxies, the impossible is from God period.

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if man can from ape.. why are there who looks like a horse?

Humans didn't come from apes. That's a common misconception. Humans and apes both came from a common, ape-like ancestor. This divergent evolution most likely resulted from changes in environment and habitat, whereas the group that would later become humans probably moved into flatter terrain that would require one to stand up in order to scan the horizon for predators, and the group that would later become apes stayed in heavily forested areas that didn't require that.

Here:
http://www.400monkeys.com/God/
Problem solved :]

I heard someone Say "Well evolution is just a theory So, creationism must be right."

Well, gravity is a theory too.

*drops book from window*

yep... I think it works

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if man can from ape.. why are there who looks like a horse?

I don't know anyone you looks like a horse, but humans, horses, apes, cats, dogs and all mammals came from a single ancestor a long, long time ago. So if someone kind of resembles a horse (which is stupid, by the way), that's probably why. It may also explain why some people are born with tails or webbed hands or feet.

if man can from ape.. why are there who looks like a horse?

contrary to my upbringing; as a muslim and christian, i do not believe that the "famous" god all religions are based upon is responsible for the creation of earth.

although i do not believe in god, i also do not know the answer to the question of a higher power.

all i do know, are the questions that stop me from believing in god, such as:
who created god? where did that creator of god come from? and that creator as well...?

i would love to hear your responses to these questions or your thoughts on my theory.

peace.

LOL

my first posts on youthnoise where on this thread over a year ago

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Evolution + Big Bang Theory > Creationism/Inteligent Design

Correct, we actually have proof of this by watching human beings and culture.
According to Creationism, God all Powerfull is responsible for the creation and well being of the human race, now with this being so we completely negate cultural Darwinism(cultural evolution), as it is not possible for human developement to be contrary to god's will, and there are thousands of conflicting points in all the wide spectrum of human culture's.
It makes no sense to believe in God all powerfull as responsible of the creation of the universe when the universe clearly responds to logic evolutionary patterns as a whole. Even more proof is that the supposed divine conscience that is All powerfull isn't able to control or manage life itself, it's most important creation, as this creation responds to evolutionary processes, that while logical, don't respond to what the bible establishes as God's word and will.

Now to the more elementary points:

God created the universe, earth and so on, then he made night and day, wait a sec, night and day are concepts that can only exist on earth with the use of concepts like light and darkness, wich in turn only exist because there are stars and a sky(space)
Now, god made night and day and darkness and light and all that other stuff before there where stars, and a sky to put them in?
I like acid do you?

That's the strangest theory I've ever heard of.

i believe the big bang theory.
we evolved from apes.
god came from an ape.
and then he was a great man who was recognized by millions.
later became a holy spirit whom we all worship in different ways.
eh. that's my theory.

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How does SquareEnix know what a Moogle looks like? They have to be real. How do I know what a six-legged hexadragon looks like? They must be real too.

gotta love Final Fantasy

I can't believe this debate has been going on for over 2 years now. you'd think people would get tired of arguing over the same topic after so long.
Evolution + Big Bang Theory > Creationism/Inteligent Design

I'm sure anything I could say to back my views has allready been said atleast 10 times in this post so far.

Aren't adaptations...evolution? Someone needs a dictionary.

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You believe what school teaches you without even questioning?

I believe what I was taught in school because I've found facts that back those teachings up. Simple enough.

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Hey earthgoddess there is a difference between a simple adaptation and evolution. The story about mountain folk is a simple adaptation like them having more bodily hair.

Even so, in order for people living by the sea to develop gills, three important factors are required: 1. They need to live IN the water all the time, not near it. Going by that logic, seagulls should have gills. 2. They need time. And a LOT of it. Millions and millions of years. Not a few decades. 3. Someone has to have the genetic mutation for gills, and pass it on.

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The art in form of a scarf with something resembling godzila(teranisaurus rex or something) woven on it shows that this pple had interaction with dinosaurs. There is no other explanation for then how did they get the idea?

I dunno. How did we get the idea for werewolves? They must be real. How does the painter Gerald Brom, know what a Boulderdash looks like? Boulderdashes must be real. How does SquareEnix know what a Moogle looks like? They have to be real. How do I know what a six-legged hexadragon looks like? They must be real too.

There have even been cave drawings of possible aliens and spaceships. Therefore, humans and aliens coexisted and rode scarf-wearing dinosaurs to their spaceships, where they'd pray and eat space cookies.

It's called imagination. It's what separates us from monkeys. No one would ever be able to sit down and draw a Tyrannosaurus Rex without getting eaten or stepped on. Someone probably saw dinosaur bones sticking out of the ground and their imaginations went crazy. And obviously you know so much about dinosaurs considering you can spell their names so well. (Sarcasm)

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You believe what school teaches you without even questioning?

Actually, we never really discussed this stuff in school. I watch a lot of Nova, and yes I do question and put forth the effort to challenge what I've heard, rather than follow blindly. That is the reason why I realized the bible was bullshit and left Christianity for good. Now, I'm not a solid, hardcore believer in Evolution. I still consider it only a theory, as there are still peices to the puzzle yet to be discovered. But it's much more believable (to me) than Creationism.

According to you, your God made us and made our brains and gave us logic, reason, and science. I don't understand why he'd give us those things not want us to use them.

Anywhoo, I'm not gonna change your mind, and you're not going to change mine. So, let's not waste anymore time on this.