Non-Christians shouldn't tell Christians not to judge
I've noticed this over and over again (mainly in response to my highly controversial posts) as it relates to Christians - the real ones, not the phony "oh I don't want to offend you" ones - giving their opinion on a particular issue, sin, or event.
Too many times, unfortunately, Christians get demonized to the point where they won't fight back.
Or they won't stand up.
Or defend themselves.
Or the millions of murdered babies because someone said they shouldn't "judge."
And 9 out of 10 times, those people who gripe about how Christians shouldn't just aren't even Christians.
It really wouldn't do me any good to quote Bible scripture, because the heathens will quote it and try to say, "see, it says here that you should just love people and not judge."
No, Christians should judge other Christians and the heathens.
Heathens have no say in the matter. Period.
So from this point on, I'm not in the defensive mode.
I'll be on offense.
And my attacks will be backed up with what I believe God is leading me to say.
But by no means does this mean I am in any way not judging myself. I, too, sin just like anyone else, and I pray for forgiveness, and I repent and confess...
So, if you're not saved, spare me and the rest of us who are and shut the heck up. There's no reason to argue about it. Stop trying to use OUR Scripture to silence OUR judgment.
Why only heathens? Why not the Jews and the gays and the Buddhists and the wiccans? If you don't want non-christains not to judge Christians, it sounds like you don't want to argue anymore with people who disagree with you. I've read lots of your posts and it doesn't sound like you to run away from a good argument.
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"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
Originally posted by KatherineTheGreat: Do you think you could open your mind up like a tiny bit? You're saying 'if you're not saved'.. just because they aren't saved the Christian way, YOUR way, doesn't mean they are not saved. You make a good point about Christians defending people. You should say what you want even if people get offended. Whether they're offended by your view point is their problem. And I personally hate it when people quote the bible in a way that could be very controversial. To be honest, (being the non-Christian I am) I hate it when people quote the bible at all. Non-Christians shouldn't tell Christians not to judge.. but Christians should expect the same. Being a Christian does not make you a demi-god.
A brilliant post, KTG. Welcome to YN, we need more people like you.
Isn't one of the big things in the Bible don't judge others or somthing to that effect? That or treat others as you would have them treat you? Hellooooooooooo.... you're supposed to live your life according to the Bible.
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So, if you're not saved, spare me and the rest of us who are and shut the heck up. There's no reason to argue about it. Stop trying to use OUR Scripture to silence OUR judgment.
Moving past the not saved bit because I'm sick of arguing over that sort of thing... well dear, if you don't want us to use your scripture to "silence" you then maybe you should just consider FOLLOWING THE SCRIPTURE. Hmmmmmm...nah, too difficult. We (most of us anyway) don't have a problem with you debating; the only thing we're trying to "silence" is the bunk about how we're all going to hell and how we shouldn't do such and such because the Bible says it's wrong.
Enought with the "heathens" thing, too. Every one is a heathen to someone else out there. Get over it.
It's so sad to think that people like you are out there, it really is. I have no problem with Chistians, as long as they don't tell me that I have to live my life according to what they think. I don't tell them to live their lives according to my atheist beliefs do I?
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"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
Do you think you could open your mind up like a tiny bit? You're saying 'if you're not saved'.. just because they aren't saved the Christian way, YOUR way, doesn't mean they are not saved. You make a good point about Christians defending people. You should say what you want even if people get offended. Whether they're offended by your view point is their problem. And I personally hate it when people quote the bible in a way that could be very controversial. To be honest, (being the non-Christian I am) I hate it when people quote the bible at all. Non-Christians shouldn't tell Christians not to judge.. but Christians should expect the same. Being a Christian does not make you a demi-god.
It was we, the people; not we, the white male citizens; nor yet we, the male citizens; but we, the whole people, who formed the Union.... Men, their rights and nothing more; women, their rights and nothing less. ~Susan B. Anthony
I'm sorry for attempting to make Christians better people. I won't do it again.
Kidding. I'm going to keep judging Christians by their own holy book until they straighten up and fly right. It's only fair that they practice what they preach, don't you agree?
Yes Jolly Good!
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Christians like you should be shot.
Amen
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notice how he says "heathens" instead of "people." Now Celtic, correct me if I am wrong, but this dehumanization is used by phycopaths so that they don't feel bad about killing people, correct?
Just to say: yes
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How pathetic you are Joey.
also yes
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No one is a "True Christian." Get over it.
amen
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"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
My idea of a good deed is scaring the idiots away from YN. Does that mean I'll be rewarded in the end? I laugh
just because someone has different views than you doesnt give you a right to try to "scare them away" if everyone with opposing viewpoints from yours left YN you would have no one to argue with but yourself....and while i would find that entertaining, YN would have no reason to continue operating.
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Me, being a christiam, i can understand where you are comming from. But mabie if you approach situations such as these in a different manner and tell the person that you are only trying to tell them your opinion and lead them to the right path they will understand. If they still don't then just remember that God if the final judge and you will be rewarded for you good deeds!
Christiam- Christian Comming- Coming Mabie- Maybe
God is a scam. The only person that judges you in the end is yourself. My idea of a good deed is scaring the idiots away from YN. Does that mean I'll be rewarded in the end? I laugh.
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The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. - Robert Bloch
Me, being a christiam, i can understand where you are comming from. But mabie if you approach situations such as these in a different manner and tell the person that you are only trying to tell them your opinion and lead them to the right path they will understand. If they still don't then just remember that God if the final judge and you will be rewarded for you good deeds!
lol. Thats a good one. People whos words are so empty a flacid that they have to pump them up by applying a title to themselves. If you said:
Remember you were a heathan too. Aboove all God will judge. It isn't up to us to point the fingure if he hasn't told us to. -Tabb
It would have looked pretty freekin dumb, wouldn't it. If you add "true christian" to the phrase, it sounds righteous and masks it's inner sanctimony. You disgust me you sanctimonious dolt.
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notice how he says "heathens" instead of "people." Now Celtic, correct me if I am wrong, but this dehumanization is used by phycopaths so that they don't feel bad about killing people, correct?
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It really wouldn't do me any good to quote Bible scripture, because the heathens will quote it and try to say, "see, it says here that you should just love people and not judge."
No, Christians should judge other Christians and the heathens.
Heathens have no say in the matter. Period.
Now, if we put people instead of heathens, then it sounds different. We aren't talking to people in West Africa who drink their own urine.
It really wouldn't do me any good to quote Bible scripture, because people will quote it and try to say, "see, it says here that you should just love people and not judge."
No, Christians should judge other people
people have no say in the matter. Period.
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Judgment from heathens ...is another story.
Even when a heathen is right, which he/she usually is?
Amazing, it truly is, your hypocrisy. We can't judge you, but you can do thus to us. This just shows me that the christian system does not pump out better people default. How pathetic you are Joey.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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