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Originally posted by EarthGoddess:

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Again there was no need for rain, every bit of water that the earth needed was provided for by four great rivers also stated in Genesis Chapter 2:10-14...(The Garden of Eden)



But where did all that water go?


Jesus drank it. ...He walked the desert A LOT, okay. The guy needed a refreshment.

Nice...

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Haha. You really shouldn't be arguing with me. Have you ever noticed the Columbia river flowing through the canyon? Ever hear of water erosion?

Sorry I wasn't clear, I forgot to put that in my response as well. But it all can be tied in.

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The amounts of water that would be required to flood the entire Earth, would move enough sediment and rock to fill in the Grand Canyon. And therefore, it should not exist.

Or it could have displaced enough earth to carve out a massive canyon afterwards.

Look I'm not saying anybody's right or wrong, were all entitled to our on beliefs.

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But where did all that water go?

Back to the source from which it came the earth...To the land and to the air.

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Originally posted by finn620:

I was not referring to the vapor that would be needed in the air for it to rain that much. I mean that if there was that much water on earth, the amount that would naturally diffuse into the air would saturate it to the point that you could breathe.

Could not, I believe you mean.

And Euterpe, that was very funny. Brava.

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The amount of water required to flood the entire earth is so great that the amount of water vapor that would be in the air as a result would make it impossible to breathe without drowning.



Again there was no need for rain, every bit of water that the earth needed was provided for by four great rivers also stated in Genesis Chapter 2:10-14...(The Garden of Eden)

I was not referring to the vapor that would be needed in the air for it to rain that much. I mean that if there was that much water on earth, the amount that would naturally diffuse into the air would saturate it to the point that you could breathe.

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Originally posted by EarthGoddess:

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Again there was no need for rain, every bit of water that the earth needed was provided for by four great rivers also stated in Genesis Chapter 2:10-14...(The Garden of Eden)

But where did all that water go?

Jesus drank it. ...He walked the desert A LOT, okay. The guy needed a refreshment.

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That's not so...Take for instance the Grand Canyon, how did the Grand Canyon get there?...Clearly there had to be the presence of water that flooded over the land to cause a massive expanse as it is today.

Haha. You really shouldn't be arguing with me. Have you ever noticed the Columbia river flowing through the canyon? Ever hear of water erosion? Millions of years ago, the canyon was just flat land with a river flowing through it. As time progressed, the water in the river eroded away at the rock and formed the canyon we know today. If there was a massive flood, the canyon wouldn't have that distinctive shape. In fact, I don't believe it would exist if there was a flood. The amounts of water that would be required to flood the entire Earth, would move enough sediment and rock to fill in the Grand Canyon. And therefore, it should not exist.

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Again there was no need for rain, every bit of water that the earth needed was provided for by four great rivers also stated in Genesis Chapter 2:10-14...(The Garden of Eden)

But where did all that water go?

BoMoWo I can back you up here...Back in Genesis Chapter 2:5-6...

"...5)and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earth and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not yet sent rain on the earth and there was no man to work the ground, 6)but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground..."

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Do you realize how long it takes the mountains that are created by earthquakes to form? Where is the physical evidence of this flood? If there was a huge flood, mountains would have been worn down and the soil would compress due to the immense weight of the water. Do you know how long it would take all that water to evaporate?

That's not so...Take for instance the Grand Canyon, how did the Grand Canyon get there?...Clearly there had to be the presence of water that flooded over the land to cause a massive expanse as it is today.

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The amount of water required to flood the entire earth is so great that the amount of water vapor that would be in the air as a result would make it impossible to breathe without drowning.

Again there was no need for rain, every bit of water that the earth needed was provided for by four great rivers also stated in Genesis Chapter 2:10-14...(The Garden of Eden)

...10)A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11)The name of the first is the Phison; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12) (The gold of the land is good; aromatic resin and onyx are also there.) 13)The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush. 14)The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Asshur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates..."

I would say that the o-zone layer was much more thick, and that it combined with hydrogen in the air somehow. Because you never heard anybody in the Bible complaining about the heat. Maybe.

Hmm...well, if there was a way for the oxygen and hydrogen in the water to seperate and enter the air, but they are attracted by hydrogen bonds, so you'd need electricity to seperate them (like when you drop a nine volt battery in a glass of water and hydrogen bubbles off the negative electrode while oxygen bubbles off the positive one). You'd need a huge amount, though.

It sounds plausible that the air could become saturated to such an extent.

We also have the problem of where the water came from. The required amount is greater than the oceans, ice caps, freshwater bodies, groundwater, and water contained in geysers put together. This amount would have to come from an outside source.

What about chemical reactions? Could the water vapor not combine with other gases so that the air was breathable?

The amount of water required to flood the entire earth is so great that the amount of water vapor that would be in the air as a result would make it impossible to breathe without drowning.

According to the Bible, I believe, there was no rain before the flood, so it all just soaked up into the Earth, yes?

But EG has a point, how could there NOT be earthquakes before the flood, or before the Bible was even written for that matter?

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Not before the flood happened, if you can show me one I would really like to see it.

Do you honestly think earthquakes didn't happen before the bible was written? Are you insane?

Do you realize how long it takes the mountains that are created by earthquakes to form? Where is the physical evidence of this flood? If there was a huge flood, mountains would have been worn down and the soil would compress due to the immense weight of the water. Do you know how long it would take all that water to evaporate?

Good question. I am not sure, I would have to research.

Not before the flood happened, if you can show me one I would really like to see it.

There were earthquakes even in the time of the Bible.

So what your saying is that the earth has no natural cooling system in place that keeps the heat from causing expansion. However in the Bible it says that the fountains of the deep broke and shot up through the ground, that being a natural cooling system as mentioned earlier, which would keep the heat from causing expansion, and the tectonic plates from shifting. The reason that the fountains broke forth from the ground was because God destroyed all humans except for Noah and his family. He caused the flood because of mens great wickedness, setting in motion great judgement upon the earth of natural disasters.

Thermal expansion. When things become hotter, they expand. Heat causes things to become bigger, and push together. This causes pressure.

Could you explain further please.

Thermodynamics.