According to the bible, there are seven things the Lord hates;things that are sins. These are:

Pride
Lust
Anger
Covetousness
Envy
Sloth
Gluttony

Now, i bet no one can tell me with a straight face that they haven't committed one of those "crimes." The thing that gets me is when the 300 pound 'really religious' man comes up to you and says you're committing a crime because you have a body piercing. THey say it's ruining your natural temple(body.) Come on, isn't that 300 lb. man committing gluttony?

I mean, look at those seven things. It's human nature to ATLEAST feel two of them, let alone none of them. Come on, we're human beings.

What do YOU think?

I agree with what WorthWaitingFor said about no one being perfect. After all the Bible is the most accurate document in the world. It is not just a book but God's Word. There are more historical documents about Jesus (christian and non-christian) than any other human. However there is no such thing as moderation. You can't serve to masters at the same time. You have to serve one thing or another.
Also, a lot of people do give Christians a bad name by forcing it. After all the Bible says that great and awesome works (good deeds) without love mean nothing.

The truth is, though, when you really think about it- none of those things have really resulted in a positive outcome. I'm certainly not one to say that we should all live our lives strictly by those "rules," but the bible, in many cases, is just an example of what is considered morally right in society in general. For example, the bible says not to murder, and obviously, murder is wrong. The bible says not to steal, not to commit adultery, not to do so many other things that we consider "bad." The bible, in this way, serves as a path for religious people to follow. What you choose to follow within the bible falls within your own personal discretion. If you think that gays are bad but you wear your polyester to work at Popeye's Seafood Shack (or whatever its called), thats your choice, not God's. Different people have different interpretations.

Bushism of the day:
Laura and I really don't realize how bright our children is sometimes until we get an objective analysis.
- CNBC, April 15, 2000

im so speechless rite now because i live in a world of ppl who think that they can tell other people that they are not being christians or if they are being christian
i got to a church where the congregation feels they can tell us what to wear and how to praise God didnt Jesus say come as you are...i mean they've been to church all their lives but have they really learned anything?
the christians i know act like everyhting is centered on what you look like....i mean there is a line....i agree with that i mean dont act and look like a hooker cuz then you really are a hooker and then call yourself a christian......but as soon as the people in my church see something that in the least bit looks wrong to their eyes it means they are of the devil......they would immediately deny somebody who has braids or an earring or a durag or even baggy pants......i mean soo much for coming as you are....

John 11:25 ------Come to me all you who are weary and burdened and i will give you rest ---------------
See the world through the eyes of child and everything will be clearer .......they dont care what you look like as long as you give them love .

Why can't you accept the fact that we have our own beliefs?

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http://www.reasons.org

OK. Thanks for clarrifying that, clpo13. I think we should follow the New Testement more than the Old because I don't follow alot of the old rules such as stoning your children. The Old Testement rules I follow are the ones they re-list in Acts where all the Disciples debated with the other Jewish council I think. If you want Scripture refrences I'll show you. And I of course follow the Ten Commandments. But I think we should follow all the teachings in the New Testement. That is what I think.

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Originally posted by clpo13:
Yes, peruchica, that may be so. However, if we followed the Bible to the letter as its writers intended, then we would be constrained in many ways. Read Leviticus. It's all about rules for the Hebrews and by osmosis, Christians.

So when I say we shouldn't live by the Bible, I mean we should accept it as the Holy Scriptures of Christianity, but not that we should live by it to the letter. God gave us free will. Thus, we should exercise that free will by doing what we know in our hearts to be right, not neccessarily what book a few thousand years old says.

Close, but no cigar.

I think Christians should still live by the Bible but we should take into consideration what is logical to still follow today and what isn't. The rules in Leviticus aren't---they were written for traveling nomads, very susceptible to disease. Guess what? That's not what we are anymore. Or at least most of the ones in the U.S. aren't. So those rules don't need to be followed by every single Christian person. The same goes for a few other different scriptures.

But we should still follow the Bible as a whole.

Yes, peruchica, that may be so. However, if we followed the Bible to the letter as its writers intended, then we would be constrained in many ways. Read Leviticus. It's all about rules for the Hebrews and by osmosis, Christians.

So when I say we shouldn't live by the Bible, I mean we should accept it as the Holy Scriptures of Christianity, but not that we should live by it to the letter. God gave us free will. Thus, we should exercise that free will by doing what we know in our hearts to be right, not neccessarily what book a few thousand years old says.

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Originally posted by clpo13:
The Bible is a book. Humans do not live by books. Therefore, it is folly to live by the Bible. Besides, Jesus died for our sins so the point is essentially moot.

It is a folly to live by the Bible? Since when???? The Bible was inspirted by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirt uses the Bible to speak to us. When you say itis folly to live by the Bible are you saying we shouldn't listen to it and obey what it says or what?

your right bella123 this is not a perfect world and will never be but the good thing is that if u do any of these sins God will forgive u if u ask for forgiveness

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I do believe, essentially, that all religions are just different paths to the same wonderful place. Because most religions teach the same ideals as Christianity. I'm almost positive that some other religions teach to ask for forgiveness. So, it kinda makes sense. Christians aren't the only ones who take time out to ask for forgiveness....we're just the most widely known to do so.

Finally! Another person who thinks that! At least now I know I'm not alone and crazy. Well, maybe crazy...

To Bella: what Dante and Aguagon said. I haven't been on the boards in two or three days and they got the point across before I got a chance to.

It's really kind of obvious why God would dislike the seven deadly sins.

And they aren't "rules to live by." The rules to live by are the Ten Commandments...and to that I say, duh.

Aguagon: I do believe, essentially, that all religions are just different paths to the same wonderful place. Because most religions teach the same ideals as Christianity. I'm almost positive that some other religions teach to ask for forgiveness. So, it kinda makes sense. Christians aren't the only ones who take time out to ask for forgiveness....we're just the most widely known to do so.

I acually have to take issue witht he fundamental premise: "According to the Bible, there are seven things the Lord hates"

1. It's not Biblical, it's Catholic catechism. You should know that which you critique.

2. These attitudes are generally condemned, yes, but by no means are there "seven things the Lord hates". That's ... nevermind, I won'd say it. Suffice to say, there are quite a few more. Most just conveniently fit into these categories.

Silly Bella and Bauhaus. The reason "God" dislikes these seven things, in particular, is because everybody feels/commits them. As WorthWaitingFor put it, the difference between Christians and non-Christians is that Christians confess their sins to a merciful God who forgives all. I'm kind of left to wonder exactly how that can peacefully coexist with the Progressive notion that all religions are just different paths to the same wonderful place, and I think the answer is it can't. Even if most Christians don't believe all non-Christians are hellbound, the idea that they are is being constantly reinforced via such preachings as the seven things that only Christians take the time out to ask for forgiveness for.

Aren't subliminal recruitment tactics fun?

Well, it is hard for us to know why God disliked these 7 things, but if you read my post I think you'd see why they make sense.

then answer me this: why do they those are the 7 rules to live by?

Bella, both you and bauhaus (see his thread, "Think you're a good Christian?") are forgetting that one of the main teachings Christians learn from that Bible is that no one is perfect except for God.

We know we're not any better than anyone else; you don't have to tell us. We sin just as much as people who aren't Christian...but then again they usually don't believe they're sinning or they don't call it that. The difference is that Christians can ask God for His forgiveness because He is a merciful God.

And if someone told you that your belly button ring is a sin, you were probably talking to a fundamentalist Christian who give the Christians who live in the real world a bad name.

I'm not saying that no Christians are hypocrites---yes, we're guilty of that sin as well---but just because we sin like everyone else doesn't make us hyprocrites. We know we sin; we know non-Christians sin. EVERYONE sins. It's just a fact of life. It's impossible for any human to not sin.

I think that moderation is key to everything. If you look at the list of sins, they all basically involve extremes in one form or another. In our lives when we focus too much on one thing or do something to excess it tends to detract from other things. Even things like charity and love can be harmful in abundance.

As for the argument of fat people and genes, I know that there is some validity to this but at the same time I am extremely sick of everything being blamed on genes these days.
I am fat, it was in my genes, not the way I eat.
I have heart problems and diabetes, but it was in my genes, not the way I eat.
I'm homosexual, it was in my genes, not a product of society.
I have a learning disability, but it was in my genes, not the way my parents raised (or didn't) me.
I think if everyone started taking a bit more responsibility for their actions instead of blaming "genes" for everything we would get a lot further in progressing the human race.

I don't give a damn what religion people are. As long as they don't shove it up every hole my body has. It's my life. Deal with it.