Oh yeah and also check these out....
http://www.goth.com
http://www.christiangoth.com
http://www.briandeneke.org

Better yet Google Christian Goth and I think u'll be suprised.....
Srry to offend any one on here. Most of u I can get along with. But the ones that are so closed minded I can't stand it. I will prlly even aspire to know. All I can say is I'll be praying for u. Also for Non-Conformists alike for this constant battle we have to fight bout who we r. It's the way God made us so it has to be for good.

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Originally posted by thewalrus:
This is not a misconception. All those signs are classic indicators of Gothic culture. I'm proud of any person, even a non-Christian, who is spreading awareness of the dark, wicked Gothic culture.

Gothic culture --->worship of Satan --->Hell

U do know that I'm goth..........
BOOOOOOOOO!!!! Man I'm scarey.... That isn't us at all. How could u judge what u don't know. I annoys the heck outta me when ppl think everything is bad that doesn't conform to societies standards.It's almost as if yr saying we dun belong in this society.I can't believe ppl these days! I really need to get my awareness vid out.There have been deaths do to this issue. Next yr gonna tell me that punks are Rebeling from God b/c of body piercings. To let u know I AM A CHRISTIAN GOTH and I DO WORSHIP THE ONE TRUE GOD JESUS CHRIST. U wanna say goths are bad well read this. Isaiah 9:2
"The people who walked in darkness have seen great light; Those who dwelt in the land of the shadow of death, upon them a light has shined."
Read yr Bible also bout judging. I think u'll find something useful there as well. I AM GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF THE STERIOTYPES!!!!!!!

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I urge everyone here not to hate Gothics but to pity them

This does not work. Either they will revel in the pity because they are attention-starved, or they will merely be annoyed.

Okay. I'm going to (Or already have and am redoing the beginning of my post about how I) give myself a self-assessment.

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-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.

ONE POINT.
Eccentrically. How vauge. Ohwell, I'll count it. I learned to fit in with absolutely every social group, so I could hang out with anyone I wanted, and did.

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-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.

ONE POINT
"Or sports"--I have never had an interest in sports. So, I've never had a decining intrest, no?

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-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.

ONE POINT
Gee. Forgive me for thinking about my own mortality.
I write fantasy stories. In it, I explain that 'magic' is an incorrect term for 'miracles', and can only be preformed by those God allows. Alas, I do mention the wrong 'M' word at some point or another...

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-Is suicidal and/or depressed

ONE POINT
Heavy depression. I had a legitimate reason. However, this is the third round of editing, and I just don't feel like typing too much more... >_>

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-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)

((Not that I do it, but self-mutilation most often does NOT involve the devil in any way. Religion doesn't factor into it. The kid needs help. If you need to look at it as a detraction of God's love, you need to have your head checked, too, because you shouldn't have to be told it's a problem. Just wanted to point that out.))

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-Complains of boredom.

((That's right. Every five year old is a Goth. Not counting this one for me, cos I don't complain of boredom.))

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-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
-Is excessively awake during the night.
-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)

THREE POINTS
All three of these apply to me. I tend to get nine or ten hours of sleep a day. What can I say? I have cats.
The reason I dislike sunlight and stay up last at night is the same, besides the fact that I do my best work late at night: My eyes are light-sensitive. Bright light like sunlight, even reflecting off of the grass after the dew dries hurts my eyes. It's a biological thing. I'm still counting it. I want yellow glasses...that would be neat.

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-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits.)

((BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Hooo.... no way.))

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-Eats goth-related foods. Count Chocula cereal is an example of this.

ONE POINT
What? The? Hell? Is a goth-related food?
Count Cocula is the cheap version of Cocoa Puffs. End of story.
I'm going to count this. I admit it. I enjoy chocolate, BUT I don't like white chocolate. Just the dirty, sinful milk chocolate.
Mmmmmm. Hershey is my sugar momma.

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-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media
sources.

ONE POINT
D@MN THAT SINFUL.....Trinity Broadcasting Network. ... ... ...do I have to count this one?
Yes.

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-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.

TWO POINTS
Okay. I count this one twice, because I also make them.
One. And you haven't finished, numbnuts.
Ah. Gomen.

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Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.

ONE POINT
That's right. Every one of you reading this is going straight to Hell.
Just kidding. I'm just having fun with this, now.

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Dances to music in a provocative manner

-ONE POINT
I elect that I can subtract a previous point because of this, for I am much too self-concious to dance.
Besides, the negative point makes up for the ones half-made in jest.

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-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.

((That's right. Philosophy is a cult. Pffff....dingbats.))

I counted eleven points. Apparently, I am a Goth, and never even knew it. Self-discovery is fun!

This is not a misconception. All those signs are classic indicators of Gothic culture. I'm proud of any person, even a non-Christian, who is spreading awareness of the dark, wicked Gothic culture.

Gothic culture --->worship of Satan --->Hell

Come to think of it, I haven't seen Count Chocula at all when I go shopping. What an odd coincidence.

-Eats goth-related foods. Count Chocula cereal is an example of this. (COUNT CHOCULA CEREAL MEANS YOU COMMUNICATE WITH THE DEVIL ?)

I went to the store yesterday to find some Count Chocula as a big joke.... The joke was on me the didn't even have it. But I did have a good laugh thinking what if the company discontinued it b/c of that statment.

Catholic school?

That explains it.

Heh...

I foun out that it was St. Mry's Catholic Church that sent it out. I got to studying it and I think it is now everywhere out of bout 20 sites one had the name of the Author on it... Take it fer what u wiil.

I don't think it represents any church, I think it's a hoax.

Any logical person would realize this is just a load of crap, and even though I don't like Christianity, I would like to think that Christians aren't this stupid.

I may be wrong, of course. I have come across a mighty lot of stupid people in my time.

And for the record, I qualify for about 90% of the things listed.

Heh.

My original reply to this is on the third page.

Just for the record, this is just from a single church. Please don't think this represents all Christians and what we think. It certainly does not.

wow... according to this i am possibly one of the most evil people alive.

-e

I didn't know it but I'm a goth! The 'excessive sleeping' did me in.

Wow, I guess I am goth, as well as the rest of my family. Hmmmm... How can this be though, we are devoted Catholics? The Church that sent this to you needs a to get with the times. Honestly, if your child eats too much or too little. If your child sleeps too much or too little. Really. This is pure craziness.

You are a typical goth, velvet.

OOOHHH suprise some one would go and figure us out..... J/k. Thats a crock of bull. I am an 18 yr old Christain Goth.... I believe in God. Not a goddess and or anything else. I even wear black. It anoys me to know that people of my own relgion does not except me. God don't look at whats on the outside jus' whats on the inside. There have been way to many deaths due to this issue and I sick of people misconsruing it. To be Goth jus' be yrself,it has to be a mindset not a relgion or an occult. Jus' because we're Non-Conformists don't mean we're bad. I'd like to know where idiot gamer found that and send them an email showing them what society they're creating. What are they trying to say? Jus' because I'm an UniPolar,Paraniod,OCD,Scitzo that I don't belong in this world? Srry I had to get that off my cheast. My parents say that I don't understand the gothic Subculture. THat it is an occult. So I got a lil carried away. Also check out http://www.briandeneke.org and you'll see another reason I'm a bit testy on this subject.

Buddhism is a cult?! I must repent immediately for researching it! The whole list was mindbogglingly stupid and closed-minded. Watching cable TV and playing the computer are signs of being a demon child? Some of these signs are bad (cutting, drinking blood, etc.), but spending too much time alone?! What is this, a flyer from 18th century England?

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Originally posted by Paintbucket:
Damn bro, which church in our hood is this? I gotta see it! Can't believe this! The burrito actually said something? I'm in wonder.

Yes infadels, it's me. I'm just coming out of retirement.

i got this from a friend out in cali and i actually have a picure of the actually church that send it out.....it was a Church of God

That list is such crap in my opinion. I seriously cannot believe what I just read. It said some signs are if your child is homosexual. So what do they want you to do? Go tell your kid not to be gay or something. It does not work like that.


x0x0 Emily

*Agrees fullheartedly with EarthGoddess* I am exactly the same way. I am a Christian, but am considered gothic by many people. The only difference is my church is more liberal and doesn't really care. This flyer is like...wow...I must qualify for like a quarter of the things on there AT LEAST, but that DOES NOT mean I am not a Christian.

-Jenos

I am not surprised to find misconceptions of this nature still existing. However I would advise you not to label that as a Christian view on a whole. I am right now myself Youth Staff at a church where clothes and titles are not as important as loving Jesus. The people I come in contact with are primarily Hard rockers, Goths, Punks, and a few preps. We do not stereotype people in this fashion or any other, but instead we focus on helping them build a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I myself have just turned eighteen and our youth gfoup is the farthest thing from a leagalistic mentality I've ever seen. I will say this though,
The excuses you give for not following Christ will not make any difference when you die, the decisions you make will determine where your soul lives out eternity.