Damn bro, which church in our hood is this? I gotta see it! Can't believe this! The burrito actually said something? I'm in wonder.

Yes infadels, it's me. I'm just coming out of retirement.

I knew all along that count chocula was inherently evil...
I've also known that eating fruity pebbles makes you act like a caveman, and eating lucky charms makes you start acting irish. I personally like to start my day off with a bowl of each which causes me to become a dirty, gothic, drunk. Now imagine if I threw in some wheaties.

wow. i didnt think yall would care this much about a moronic list. any who i answer yes to like all but 3. i became a christan and had my preacher read this, and he said yes to 15 of them.

Most kids are "gothic" for attention nothing more!

This is so crazy. 1-it's a weird christian thing like hating homosexuals, now they hate goths too?
2-this is just an overprotective parent thing. they dont want their kids to be thinking about death too much i guess.

Korith

Surprisingly, I find you to be the most close-minded person replying on this thread (aside from WJ and jamaica who are endlessly close-minded).

First of all "gothic" is not a religion and, therefore, cannot be directly compared and contrasted with Christianity. Being "gothic" most often has to do with the clothing and accessories worn by the people and the music they listen to. Even though this is not where the term "gothic" originated from, this is what the current definition of the term is related to. Simply because someone wears a certain type of clothing or listens to a certain type of music, doesn't mean they aren't Christian and doesn't mean they are horrible people. Sometimes it doesn't even mean they're gothic (you and I would probably consider different people under this label).

Secondly, I am sorry that you haven't had the best of experiences with people you consider gothic. I don't presume to know what you said or did to recieve these comments and/or actions and it's unacceptable if you didn't say or do anything that would cause these so-called goths to say rude things to you. But because of a few people you've come in contact with, you cannot generalize the entire goth culture and say that all of them are bad people. I have known many people that you would consider goth and they are very nice to me and often funny and easy to get along with. They are usually the most interesting and open-minded people I meet. Just because you have a few bad experiences, you can't assume that everyone you would consider Goth are bad.

Thirdly, Goth doesn't equal Satanist or Atheist or anything against Christianity. Yes, some goths are against Christianity or at least disagree with it. But it's rare that they will condemn you for believing in it or disrespect your views. Often times, they respect others views more than anyone else would, even if they disagree with them. And there are also many goths who see nothing wrong with Christianity or who are Christians themselves. I know several. You can't generalize a group such as goths because that is a big group with individual people who have individual beliefs and opinions.

There are no Goth-related charities because being goth is not a religion like being Christianity. You have not heard of goths doing good deeds because it's rare that people label themselves like that. I doubt a newspaper article would read, "Yesterday, a Goth helped the homeless in a very humane act." They might say a Christian, but I doubt it. They would most likely say "a middle-aged woman" or something to that effect. You cannot give statistics or numbers for "goths" for this very reason. You can for Chrisitans because it that is a religion with religious groups and charities. Goth isn't!!! I've seen Goths in my choice of volunteer work. At least about four or five different so-called goths volunteer at the same place I do. And why does it even matter who contributes more to charities, as long as people are contributing?

I am really baffled by these close-minded views you have. I don't understand how it's even possible for you to think this way. Goth is simply a label like punk, prep, jock, geek, and nerd. It is not a religious term like Christian or Buddhist or Muslim. You cannot directly compare the two. By saying Christians are better, are you saying all Christians are preps and jocks or what? I'm confused by this logic you have concocted.

I wish labels like goth didn't even exist...

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Originally posted by WJ:
aint nothing wrong with me be more tolerent of the homophobic we're people too!!!

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If you want others to be tolerant of homophobic people, then be tolerant of homosexuals. It's that simple.

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Originally posted by EarthGoddess:

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Okey then, IF Goths are so generous, I'll produce an approximate figure of how much Christians (In America Alone) donate time and money to Charitable causes and you give me the total for "Goths", and to make it far, I'll even total mine out to the number of Goths there are (about) since there are so many more Christians, and we'll compare the numbers.

If Goths are as generous as you seem to think they are, then my obviously incorrect statement will be easily refuted.

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Korith, I am extremely suprised at you. That is a very close-minded thing to say. "Goths" can be anyone. I know of a lot of Christian teens who consider themselves Gothic. People call me Gothic and I give to charity as often as possible. Just because someone is wearing all black and chains and spikes, does not mean they are not Christian.

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You know what would make me happy. If you would be on my side for on second. Of all the ignorant posts here, you come after mine. I realizse why, and I'll be fine with apologising to you, but can you understand how someone can be backed into a corner with the outlandish statements made against Christians on here? So if you could, and care about misconceptions or just plain bigotry, you'd help me out instead of ignoring them.

A fine example of a simple minded bigot woul be anyone who would say something like this:

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Originally posted by bauhaus:
[quote]Goths dont go around to other countries and convert people, or go to war with muslims.

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Yet you seem to jump right past that one.....

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...and the homosexual thing if your gay your messed up not gothic

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You are just as dumb, in my opinion, as the people that wrote this.

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-Eats goth-related foods. Count Chocula cereal is an example of this. (COUNT CHOCULA CEREAL MEANS YOU COMMUNICATE WITH THE DEVIL ?)

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WTF? LMAO! That has got to be the best cereal ever! (And the stupidest thing I ever heard!)
I think it is all a bunch of bullcrap. This is why I don't affiliate with any religions, especially X-ianity.

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Okey then, IF Goths are so generous, I'll produce an approximate figure of how much Christians (In America Alone) donate time and money to Charitable causes and you give me the total for "Goths", and to make it far, I'll even total mine out to the number of Goths there are (about) since there are so many more Christians, and we'll compare the numbers.

If Goths are as generous as you seem to think they are, then my obviously incorrect statement will be easily refuted.

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Korith, I am extremely suprised at you. That is a very close-minded thing to say. "Goths" can be anyone. I know of a lot of Christian teens who consider themselves Gothic. People call me Gothic and I give to charity as often as possible. Just because someone is wearing all black and chains and spikes, does not mean they are not Christian.

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ahaha!!this is hilarious..thery accusin nomal kids of being satan worshippers!!
oh yeah i recently heard somethin bout an uproar by parents denying histoy of evolution cos it was against their religion(the whole adam n eve thing)plz fill me in on that..

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yeah, if you dont know Adam and Eve, go read the Bible, if you dont even know what a Bible is, go have fun at your grave.

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Im bigger and taller then you, does that make me better?

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No, it doesnt make you better.... It makes you an annoying super-egoistic j.e.r.k

ahaha!!this is hilarious..thery accusin nomal kids of being satan worshippers!!
oh yeah i recently heard somethin bout an uproar by parents denying histoy of evolution cos it was against their religion(the whole adam n eve thing)plz fill me in on that..

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whatever.... Christians are STILL the biggest religion all over the world.

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Im bigger and taller then you, does that make me better?

whatever.... Christians are STILL the biggest religion all over the world.

Goths dont go around to other countries and convert people, or go to war with muslims.

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Originally posted by WJ:
just doin ma job miss

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I was being sarcastic, you idiot.

If you aren't an idiot, then don't post ridiculous, stupid, and ireelevant things like that.

For the love of humanity, can we please stop with the label of "Goth"? What one person thinks is a Goth person and what another one thinks can be two totally different stereotypes. I've been called Goth before and I have virtually no knowledge of the Goth subculture...I just wear black and rock tees. So if you think Goths are bad....get a life. That means you think I'm bad (since I've been called that label before) and not a Christian (which I am). Stop with the dumb, stupid, generalizing, stereotyping labels!

...okay, that was my rant for today.

And the Second Coming turns out to be true...

The Second Coming of The Crusades, I mean...

<puking and gagging noises once again on this site> I will prevail!

Tolerance and acceptance aren't the same thing.

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Just because there are no gothic-founded charities does not mean goths are not giving money and helping humanity. Christian charities draw funds from people of all faiths and use the funds to help people; I believe this is a good thing, but to be honest, I'm more than a little irked when they flaunt their Christianity as being tied in with their giving nature, as it implies that to not have faith is to not be charitable

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If the "Goths" are so zealous about Charity, I think I would have seen at least 1 volunteer in my time of charitable work, and still I haven’t. Also, if they cared about Charity at all, they would make their own charitable organization instead of feeding the Christian ego.

On the Charge of Christians drawing fund from all faiths, if someone wants to donate to, lets say 30 Hour Famine, then they are welcome to do so, however do you believe for one second that there are more Goths, or Hindu’s donating than Christians? If so, you are terribly mistaken. And If you still persist, I would be curious to ask just how many Christian charities you've worked for that you've gathered more non-Christian funding than Christian, that you so earnestly draw your opinion from.

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It's far more than that. Religious disputes involving Christianity have been one of the underlying causes in many wars, including the one we are in now.

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This charge is completely false. Not only is it ignorant in it's nature alone, but it holds no water what so ever. there are more then Christians in the U.S. Army, and certainly more in the other Armies contributing. Not to mention the fact that there are more than Christians in the U.S. Government and in the Governments of the other contributing factions. Also, if this is some "subliminal" Christian crusade how is it there ae so many Christians who morally oppose the war (such as myself).

Also, you imply that Christians are the only ones who start the wars. I beg to differ. More than 150,000 Christians were killed last year, because of narrow-minded thinking like yours, they were killed for simply reading the Bible, and this year there will be more than last for this very reason. Christians are being massacred everyday (in countries like Sudan) not because the Christians are fighting in crusades, but because they are Christian at all.

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To announce that goths do not contribute to society is a vastly incorrect blanket statement.

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Okey then, IF Goths are so generous, I'll produce an approximate figure of how much Christians (In America Alone) donate time and money to Charitable causes and you give me the total for "Goths", and to make it far, I'll even total mine out to the number of Goths there are (about) since there are so many more Christians, and we'll compare the numbers.

If Goths are as generous as you seem to think they are, then my obviously incorrect statement will be easily refuted.