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Picture of WorthWaitingFor
Registered: June 14, 2004
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Okay, I'll be the first to completely trash every single part of this post. First of all, it seems like it's a very sarcastic post. If it's not, it's extremely sad and disturbing that more than one person would actually believe all this s***. Thanks, idiotgamer, for giving me something to do. I'm very bored. And I'm glad we share the same sentiments as far as these crazy people are concerned. Let the fun begin!

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Originally posted by idiotgamer420:
IIf Your Child is a Gothic, Reform Through the Lord! Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your child may have gone astray from the Lord.

Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to participating in. The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds into an imagined world of evil,darkness, and violence. Please seek immediate attention through counselling, prayer, and parental guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if five or more of the following are applicable to your child:


First of all, labels are retarded. Second of all, many of the following pinpoints aren't even considered true aspects of the original Gothic culture (many people who claim to be the label don't even know what the term "gothic" really means...and clearly neither do the people who wrote this).

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-Frequently wears black clothing.
-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.
-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include: reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other Satanic worshipping symbols.
-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.


How can just wearing clothes be going against God? Most people wear black because it looks good or because it matches well (that's my main reason). And just because it's a rock T-shirt, doesn't mean it has Satanic symbols on it. And just because some people like to ink their bodies and punch holes in them doesn't mean they're going to hell.

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-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music. (Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks
against the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)


I hate how music tends to define the type of person we're supposed to be. I listen to any and all kinds of music. There's maybe one or two genres I don't like. Just because I listen to so-called gothic or anti-social genres doesn't mean I'm sad/depressed/Satanic.

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-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak eccentrically.


So now simply associating with other people can cause me to go to hell? And "eccentric" is a synonym to odd. Meaning someone could associate with a person who likes birds a helluva a lot and go to hell.

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-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the Bible, prayer, church or sports.


How exactly did sports end up in the list of wholesome activites? I'm surprised the author doesn't find football to be overly violent for Christians.

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-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult, witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.


Why do fundamentalists assume that death, vampires, magick, and the occult are directly linked to Satan? And having an interest (i.e. reading books and finding information on the web) is completely different from trying to actually become a vampire or perform magick. I guess these fundamentalists don't want me to be well-rounded---they just want me to be a Christian and nothing else.

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-Takes drugs.
-Drinks alcohol.
-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation. (This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God and
His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local mental health center.)


Because obviously all people who do these things are Gothic and will burn in Hell for having a glass of champagne. And whoever heard of self-mutilation as a Satanic ritual? I'm sure it's part of many Satanic rituals but it's certainly not the only reason why people partake in it.

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-Complains of boredom.


Please...I complain of boredom at least once a day.

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-Sleeps too excessively or too little.


I don't know of many teenagers who sleep too little. And excessive sleeping on the weekends has to do with the lack of sleep we recieve during the week. I highly doubt this is a sign of vampirism (which seems to be the same as being Gothic in this author's mind).

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-Is excessively awake during the night.
-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)


Again, insomnia is not a symptom of being Gothic. And why does the author continue to assume that Satan, vampires, and Gothic are interchangeable when all three are, while sometimes related, completely different.

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-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
-Spends large amounts of time alone.
-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child may speak to evil sprits.)


Just because the kid wants a break from being around a constant flow of people, doesn't mean they wish to speak to evil spirits.

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-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an adult.


What teenager doesn't insist on this at least once?

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-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders are but a few examples of this.


Once again, what teenager doesn't do this at least once? And I've never met a priest or a nun.

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-Misbehaves at school.
-Misbehaves at home.


Why is being Gothic directly linked to misbehaving? White kid from the trailer park who wears sunshine yellow at least once a week could misbehave at school or home. He certainly wouldn't be considered Gothic and it doesn't mean he's going to hell.

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-Eats excessively or too little.


They must've gotten signs for being Gothic and signs for eating disorders mixed up. I can see how that could happen...

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-Eats goth-related foods. Count Chocula cereal is an example of this. (COUNT CHOCULA CEREAL MEANS YOU COMMUNICATE WITH THE DEVIL ?)


Count Chocula is just a chocolate-ly good breakfast food. I don't see how it's "Goth-related." How can a food be related to being Gothic? I guess these people don't let their kids watch Sesame Street either (what with Count the Count and all...his numbers are Satanic, you know).

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-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and should be stopped immediately.)


Once again, Gothic and vampirism are not the same thing! And this is just gross...I don't know any teenagers who drink blood. It's probably very unhealthy.

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-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources. (Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)
-Plays videos games that contains violence or role-playing nature.
-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the computer.


Once again, media is supposedly the devil...

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-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.


Violently shakes head to music? So every concert-goer is going to hell?

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-Dances to music in a provocative manner.


Nah...that just means they're a w*ore... (just kidding)

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-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.


Because that's why kids are Goth right? TO hide their true blasphemous ways behind that scary music and makeup. Being homo has nothing to do with being Gothic. And it's a subject that's been beat to death, but it also isn't going to send you to hell. (Shut up, WJ...there's something wrong with you.)

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-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism, Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.


Yeah, Buddhism is a cult religion...And you'd be surprised at how many "goths" are Christian.

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-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
-Claims to be a goth.


I'd actually think these people aren't Goth...

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If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it. If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental health center.


Well, 20 applied to me. So I guess I need to go to a mental health center 4 times more than the normal teen....sad.

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I for one totally agree with this! The Gothic subculture is evil and corrupts the minds and bodies of the young. I myself almost fell prey to this evil group, many of my friends have, but I luckily was saved. I urge everyone here not to hate Gothics but to pity them, they are in need of help, they must be saved from themselves and the vile persuasion of Evil. What your views on this satanic culture hiding in plain sight?


This person has clearly been brainwashed.

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i personally find it all to be a load of crap.


Yeah, me too.


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WJ
Registered: September 19, 2004
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the wearing black thing is not true i normally wear black thats just because its easier to match things and the homosexual thing if your gay your messed up not gothic
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Registered: April 03, 2004
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I had to laugh on that one Celtic and I couldn't agree more.


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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I'd rather my kid be a goth than the moron who wrote that thing.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: January 16, 2004
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I said yes to 18 of them. Guess i'm going to hell.


L'enfer, c'est les autres. -Jean-Paul Sartre
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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goths are just as lost as christians.


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Registered: August 17, 2001
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I hope that is a joke. Why? Because at least five of those things pertain to NORMAL TEENAGE BEHAVIOR! (Also, my friend fits more than half of those descriptions, and his more religious (He's Christian, by the way) than I am.)


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Registered: March 08, 2004
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Originally posted by idiotgamer420:
it wasnt about my church(i dont go to church) like i said i found this.

Sorry, I missed that. But since that's the case, there's a fairly good chance this is originally from a site like Landover Baptists, and intended as a joke. I sure hope it is.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Idiots.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: March 31, 2004
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it wasnt about my church(i dont go to church) like i said i found this.


How can you fight a battle you can't even see?
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Registered: March 08, 2004
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Your church is clearly terrified. I pity them. How can people who believe this turn off the lights at night? Aren't they afraid Count Chocula might pay them a visit?
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