Old GK, eh? Well, how about this one:

"All conservatism is based upon the idea that if you leave things alone you leave them as they are. But you do not. If you leave a thing alone you leave it to a torrent of change."

And another:

"If I had only one sermon to preach, it would be a sermon against pride."

A word of advice, my good man. Before using a quote by someone, try to understand what they stood for. You may be surprised to find that, although one quote fits your needs perfectly, the rest are exactly opposite.

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Originally posted by clpo13:
Do you make up these quotes yourself? I honestly can't imagine anyone being as stupid as to actually say them. Aside from you maybe.

"Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions."
-Gilbert K. Chesterton

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Tolerance is the virtue of a man who believes in nothing.

Do you make up these quotes yourself? I honestly can't imagine anyone being as stupid as to actually say them. Aside from you maybe.

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Originally posted by Greenleaf771:
You are so hopeless, Reactionary.

I'm a hopeless cause for reciting the official motto of the Republic of the United States of America?

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Its okay to be Christian, but you're just really, really out there.

haha, I can see it now:

"Reactionary: To the right of the world, to the left of God."

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And to think that there are other people like you is even scarier.

And we make up the largest religious group in the US of A. *evil laugh*

At least it rhymed, Reactionary.

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people (our society as well as other nation's) still affiliate the U.S. with Christainity.

They're wrong. Plain and simple. We're as secular a country as Britain is.

You are so hopeless, Reactionary. Its okay to be Christian, but you're just really, really out there. And to think that there are other people like you is even scarier.

And conquer we must, for our cause is just. And be this our motto: "In God is our trust".

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Originally posted by loudnproud904:
i know this doesn't have much to do with this thread, but does anyone know if the majority of the U.S. is Christian or Catholic?...just wondering....

When you classify religions, Catholicism is considered Christianity.

Christian 78% (Protestant 52%, Roman Catholic 24%, Mormon 2%), other 10%, none 10%, Jewish 1%, Muslim 1%

If you want detailed info, try http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/04statab/pop.pdf.

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oh, and despite the fact of Article 11 of the Triploi Treaty being signed, people (our society as well as other nation's) still affiliate the U.S. with Christainity.

What are you basing this on? This administration is affiliated with Christianity, of course, but overall, we're one of the most religiously diverse countries in the world because we allow ALL religions to be practiced.

i know this doesn't have much to do with this thread, but does anyone know if the majority of the U.S. is Christian or Catholic?...just wondering....oh, and despite the fact of Article 11 of the Triploi Treaty being signed, people (our society as well as other nation's) still affiliate the U.S. with Christainity.

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next time you say something, check your facts.

So, did you not even read my whole post? I even quoted a website, with hard facts on it. Why don't you take your own advice and "think more"?

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what the hell does the words under the pyrimid of the great seal of the united states on the dollar mean? Dan Brown says it means something like New World seclular Order which is something to what my basic latin translates it to but what does it really mean? and heck while I'm at it any one know what the seal it self means?

All right, first off, the words Novus Ordo Seclorum refers to a "new order of the ages," not New World Order, as Dan Brown says. Brown took a literal translation that fit his purpose, but it really refers to a paradigm shift, which is a term that describes the process and result of a change in basic assumptions within the ruling theory of science, and other realms of human experience. In the case of the reverse of the Great Seal (the pyramid side), it most likely makes reference to how the US was a nation based more on reason than on religion. I'm not too sure about this.

As for the eye, it is generally called the Eye of Providence. The exact reason for it being on the reverse of the Great Seal is unclear, but the words Annuit Coeptis above it translate to "It [the Eye of Providence] is favorable to our undertakings." It could be a reference to a greater being, which fits somewhat with what we know of the beliefs of the founding fathers. However, the report of the first Great Seal Committee in 1776 describes the seal as "Crest The Eye of Providence in a radiant Triangle whose Glory extends over the Shield and beyon the Figures." Whatever that means.

That's just what I've been able to learn about it. More here.

Oh and just to say the Founding Fathers were mostly Freemasons a secular branch of christianity not Deists we have had three presidents who were not freemasons and they were all assainated coincicdence? YES! or no who really cares they prez can be Buddist for all I care.

I have a question on a similar religon/goverment topic what the hell does the words under the pyrimid of the great seal of the united states on the dollar mean? Dan Brown says it means something like New World seclular Order which is something to what my basic latin translates it to but what does it really mean? and heck while I'm at it any one know what the seal it self means? the pyramid, the eye this is really confusing.

Now to ring in on the subject
"A Nation Founded on religous Principles" the last word is the key word this US was not based on a religon nor is it affiliated with a religon unless your a conspiracy freak who sees masons every where. The US was founded on the prinicples of religion like all men are creted equal and so on. The Reason we are religously neutral is the facts One: we have no state sponsered religion and Two: this one is obvious read the document we founded the country under in the constuition there are two articles pretaing to religion the first is Freedom of Religion and the other is Seperation of Church and State which back then was rare because ususally the king or ruler of a nation was religous Grand Poobah as well.

Ok so the last line in my post was harsh and I was just kidding, but still. ( And I can't go edit it because I've waited to long).
Let me rephrase

People like you need a good punch in the kidney sometimes.

Hey, welcome to the forum. Now, the award for the most ignorant first post goes to....

OH MY! It's YOU! Congratulations!

Check our facts? Check your facts. We're quoting government documents. The sites we named HAVE PICTURES of the documents with the words ON THEM! Do you have a picture of the founding fathers praying?
Did you even read what we wrote? Or did you just decide to post because you thought you knew what you were talking about?
People like you deserve to die.

there are too many people for us not to have representatives. imagine trying to get all 240 million of us into one building. it cant be done. we vote for representatives to make decisions for us. think more

The United States was founded on Christian principles. Our founding fathers even spent the day after signing the Constitution praying for our nation. next time you say something, check your facts.

Dammit, clpo, you just revealed the site where I pulled my quotes from...now I appear less intelligent.....thanks a lot.

lol.

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What is a democratic republic, and how does it differ from a regular republic?

To the best of my knowledge, a pure democracy is in essence the peoples' government. No representatives. What the people say, goes. In a pure republic, on the other hand, all the decisions lay in the hands of a few representatives (elected by the people) who decide what's "best" for the people they represent. In the United States, the people tell their representatives what they want and then the representatives present that to the central government. Thus, we are a democratic republic, but with a tendency towards being more republican than democratic, since the people really have little or no say, aside from voting and whatnot.

Also, according to Deism.org, many of the founding fathers were Deists by their own admission. Just read through the site.

Yep, they were deists all right.

Thomas Jeffersonin a letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
"One day the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in the United States will tear down the artificial scaffolding of Christianity. And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His father, in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."