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Picture of clpo13
Registered: November 05, 2004
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You obviously have a skewed idea of what Buddhism is, BS. There are many variants, and not all contradict Christianity.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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How can you beleive in reincarnation or nirvana and Christ and his view of death and the world? You can't.


You're not being fair to others beliefs.

I don't understand how anyone can believe any god but I don't go around and tell people that their faith is wrong. As long as you believe it, it is "correct"


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Registered: September 19, 2001
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How can you beleive in reincarnation or nirvana and Christ and his view of death and the world? You can't.


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
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Registered: October 07, 2006
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You cannot be even remotely Christian unless you beleive that Jeses Christ is the Son of God, the Messiah, and beleive that he came and died for all of our sins. It isn't possible.
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I never said that you couldn't believe in Jesus. It's possible to follow the philosophies of the Buddha and believe in Jesus. Buddha died before Jesus was born, but i'm willing to bet that he would have been friends with him if they had met
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Registered: September 19, 2001
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Anyone who thinks that you can be Christian without beleiving the thing that I said below is WRONG. I will not go out and buy and read a book that claims that you can. Now I suppose that you can take things like "be nice to people" but that is in just about any faith.


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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possible sir is just the impossible task that has been accomplished repeatedly

as to your charge I have already provided a source showing a successful mix of an eastern religion and christianity (of course you have to read it to know that it's actual evidence)


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: September 19, 2001
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mix of Catholic/Christian, and Buddhist

You cannot be even remotely Christian unless you beleive that Jeses Christ is the Son of God, the Messiah, and beleive that he came and died for all of our sins. It isn't possible.

As for Squared's problem, you should not do anything until you beleive it. It is a choice of the soul and no one can/should force anyone to do anything that is not completey in thier soul.


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Someone's actually kinda/sorta beat you both two it mogar, Look up the book "The Jesus Sutras" it's a fascinating read about the mixture of christianity and taoism (I know that taoism and buddhism are not the same thing but it's that same western/eastern religous mix)


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: October 07, 2006
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I know i'm replying a little late to this discussion, but i've got an idea.
Have you ever thought of being a mix of Catholic/Christian, and Buddhist? I'm not trying to convert you, but it's a possibilty. My friend and I were talking on the phone the other day, and we were discussing mixing toghether the best of both worlds, mainly the goodness towards mankind, pacifism, believing in a god (not my personal choice, but i'm mentioning it) and the idea that the world would be good if we all would act good.
Just a suggestion


Mogar the monk
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Registered: June 22, 2004
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If you want the truth, I honestly think you've found it in yourself because you know who you are, what you believe in, and it sounds like you don't just go along for the ride. Now, it's time to let it all out. Letting it out, especially to our parents, can be a rough and tough tumble to go through but it always works out better then we think. Just trust me on this one, it does.

In a way, I understand where you are coming from. I've been friends with someone who is gay for the last three years and only a couple of days ago did my mom find out that I had a gay friend. She would of known sooner, but I thought she would have flipped out, but she didn't. She accepted him because she accepts me in making the decision to choose who my friends are.

The point that I am trying to make is that, as humans, we tend to make things bigger then what they are. Just tell them because if you don't, you'll end up more miserable then you are now.


I have not yet reached my goal, and I am not perfect. But Christ has taken hold of me. So I keep on running and struggling to take hold of the prize. My friends, I don't feel that I have already arrived. But I forget what is behind, and I struggle for wha
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Registered: July 24, 2006
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hmm.. I went through the confirmation classes, even though I didn't want to... and I got confirmed... I didn't talk to my parents about not wanting to, because they might think that I'm crazy and ground me for not wanting to be Catholic--and wanting to be pagan instead.


"The deepest circle of Hell is reserved for betrayers and mutineers."--Captain Jack Sparrow
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Registered: September 18, 2003
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I been a wiccan for ten years !
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Registered: August 09, 2006
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talk to someone u think is a spiritual person that u look up to, go to them with your questions. about your g-ma read the problem of pain by c.s. lewis he went through the same thing, he lost his mom, his dad, and his wife. the book is about how could God do this to me??

let me know if u have questions. i will be glad to help
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Registered: July 06, 2006
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Throughout the year i have been going to confirmation classes at my catholic church, but after the first class i started to think that i didn't want to be confirmed. I don't beleave in all the views of the catholic church: i support homosexuals and i think that women should be allowed to be preists.


Oh, simple fix. Like Brehon said, come on over to the Episcopal Church. Big Grin

The situation with your grandmother is extremely unfortunate, and I'm terribly sorry. However, the problem of "when bad things happen to good people" is not a new one to the Church. It's called theodicy or "the problem of evil." I would suggest you read some good theological works on it. Something a little more comforting and uplifting to your spirit than "oh, well, it was God's will" or some other such explanation that only serves to frustrate rather than comfort.

Of course, my advice to you may be too late, so you may already be a Catholic now. All the same, I would definitely invite you to explore the Episcopal Church. It is liturgically equivalent to the RCC but without the doctrine being forced down one's throat. In fact, we tend to encourage questions from time to time. Wink

The simplest (and hopefully only) reason you need to tell your parents: I cannot of good faith and sound morals declare myself to believe something that I cannot believe. If they truly respect you as an individual--and especially their child--they will accept your decision. My prayers for you. [candle]


"'Blessed are the pure in heart,' it says. Nothing about the poor in head." --Ralph Ellison
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Registered: June 26, 2006
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anyone here jewish?
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Registered: June 06, 2003
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All you can do is tell your family the truth. You should'nt take such a step if you're not ready and they should respect your decision.
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Registered: November 01, 2005
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simple.

just tell them that you respect the way that they live their lives, but you simply don't agree with their religious views.

if that doesn't work, i'd go to church, suck up a bunch of holy water and spit it in the preist's face, then declare your allegiance to satan.

that's just me, but hey, if it works..


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Registered: May 07, 2003
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I consider myself a devout Catholic, even though the Church and I don't see eye to eye on a lot of things. Like you, I believe that women should be able to be priests (as does my Catholic Church's youth minister...) and I don't think that there is anything wrong with deciding to join yourself to someone of the same gender (it is only the sexual aspect that makes me uncomfortable). The way I see it is this: As long as by confirming yourself as a Catholic will not negatively impact your life in any way, you really have nothing to lose. So what if your beliefs vary a little bit from those sitting next ot you at mass? It happens. I personally would have more respect for you for doing that because it means that you HAVE thought about what you believe in.

That's just my opinion...


"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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what's wrong with being catholic teeth?


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: February 04, 2006
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I am the same way, I go to CCD classes with my friends, not for the class though, just to get out of the house b/c I liive right by the church. My mom told me I can be any religion, basicly some form of Christian I'm sure. My dad and stepmom said any christianity except catholic. I pesonally dont believe in Reconciliation b/c I think we should just be allowed to say our sins to God and not have them sad to the priest first. And praying to the saint? Yeah, they were wonderful people, but they arent God and should not be treated like it. Theyre dead they dont answer your prayers, not even Mary. Holy Communion, in my belief is blessed bread and wine that symbolizes Jesus's body and blood but, I do not believe it is really the body and blood of Christ. I know it is wrong to go to a class where you dont realy believe whats going on and being said but I do like getting to pray and learn about Jesus. I say you tell your parents how you really feel and tell them they truly cant change how you feel in your heart. But, you love God and would reather be a different denomination, if thats how you feel.

I know I spelt stuff wrong but I dont care and I dont want to hear about it this time.


The grass is greener on the other side, until you get there.
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