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Picture of spreadthelove
Registered: August 29, 2006
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Ever since I was younger I’ve always liked going to Church, but I think it was just for the music because whenever I go now I leave thoroughly pissed. Sometimes I feel that religion fuels hatred. The one thing that gets me the most is when my pastor preaches about the lord and acceptance, but than basically turns around and says ‘Oh, but if your gay your going to hell so change’. It makes me so angry. If God is so accepting than why should it matter? He’ll take the mentally ill, the sinners that got themselves saved and just about anyone else who excepts Jesus, but he won’t take someone who’s homosexual? No. That’s not my God and I refuse to believe so.


.keep on spreadin the love.
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Registered: February 27, 2003
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Originally posted by speed:
NO they don't.
Religion needs to be absolute to survive, if it's not absolute there's no point in believing in it. Therefore, it is incompatible with anything resembling variety and diference.

My feelings exactly.

Besides what speed said, religions thrive when they have something/someone who is "out to get them." Like the gays or people who don't believe in their religion. It bonds them. "Look, they're trying to destroy us! We must be strong in the face of dissent!" *shrugs* I know that many religious people are accepting, but I think religions are inherently unaccepting.


"I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but the people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take power from them, but to inform them by education." Thomas Jefferson
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Registered: February 05, 2005
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NO they don't.
Religion needs to be absolute to survive, if it's not absolute there's no point in believing in it. Therefore, it is incompatible with anything resembling variety and diference.


If god existed he'd be right winged
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Registered: November 16, 2006
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everything is how you interpret it.

find a different church with a different pastor (like mine weeee) and you might view religion differently.

I agree try not to generalize. it's like saying all homosexuals are flamboyant. lol.


"Be the change you wish to see in the world." -Mahatma Gandhi
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Registered: November 06, 2003
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Even among the same denomination churches can be radically different, so let's not generalize them all...
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Religion has always been a scapegoat solution to social affairs. Homosexuality, abortion, sex.. it all has the simple answer of God says 'no'. Its impossible to argue with and very influential.. people are dying for their opinions to be given to them. Organized religion most certainly will do that for them.


It was we, the people; not we, the white male citizens; nor yet we, the male citizens; but we, the whole people, who formed the Union.... Men, their rights and nothing more; women, their rights and nothing less. ~Susan B. Anthony
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Registered: March 29, 2003
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i prefer places of worship where you dont need to go hear someone give sermons..temples, churches, monastries should all be places to just make you reflect in your own way..
though am a hindu i went to a catholic school and i never minded doing cathecism(sp?)..but what i hated was when fathers and brothers used to talk about how life is like a rainbow and relate everything in life to either sunshine or rain..


Dont let ur studies interfere with ur education!!!!!
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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That's why I'm a Unversalist Catholic (Congregation: 1) I practice catholic but I hold that all forms of peaceful worship, worship the same guy and he won't get to particuler over who worshipped, how where and in what language (not to mention what name they used for the big guy)


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: August 24, 2006
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That's exactly why I don't go to church....I know that God excepts all including hmosexuas, be people can't understand that unless you are one...So, if you're leaving there pissed, you should stop going, and just listen to christian music (or whatever it is you like) stations and buy the cds.


"Life is a treasure, even if digging to it or through it is a challenge." Mattie J.T. Stepanek.
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Registered: June 22, 2004
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Preachers can be hypocrites. That's one of the main reasons why I left the church I've been going to for a year and a half. I think that you don't necessarily have to go to church to have faith or worship. For example, there is FCA in schools and they still have worship. Just follow your heart and God and you can't go wrong.


I have not yet reached my goal, and I am not perfect. But Christ has taken hold of me. So I keep on running and struggling to take hold of the prize. My friends, I don't feel that I have already arrived. But I forget what is behind, and I struggle for wha
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Going to a different church would be my suggestion.


Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: August 09, 2006
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You do not need to go to church. It does not matter what you have faith in as long as you have faith.


The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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Welcome to the truth. That is one of the reasons I left the church.


I like these calm little moments before the storm.
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