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Polygamy is the practice (usually religious) of having multiple spouses (usually wives). There are two possible lines of constitutional attack on anti-polygamy statutes. One derives from the First Amendment's religion clauses. The other derives from Due Process "right to privacy" concepts -- and in particular, from the Supreme Court's recent holding in Lawrence v. Texas that adults have a privacy right that extends to private, consensual sex acts.

In the end, neither of these lines of attack will -- or should -- be successful. Still, it is worth taking a close look at each to examine the extent to which the Constitution allows states to shape -- or forbids them from shaping -- the definition of marriage, and regulating who can marry whom.

So, here's the question: If you had the choice, would you outlaw or let polygamy live?

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Hey, let them live their own lives. It doesn't affect us.
Absolutely! It's against the law and it should have been stopped a while ago!
I'm mixed, there are good and bad sides to it.
Polyga-what? Who cares...?

 

Because it's purble people. Sheesh

YAY of course. They should get tax breaks and government benifits, even if only one of them is a government employee, they should all get the benifits. YAYAYAYAYAYAY.

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Celtic you're falling into a trap yourself, you're supporting an and/with philosophy with a either/or mentality. You're tellin jam to opebn her mind while you have a closed mind yourself.

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Read my "I'm done" thread in randomosity.

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make a new one where you just hate on eachother and then the rest of us can throw in our opinions.

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That was tried. And it didn't work. The mods ended up deleting it.

You both suck Jam and celtic alike. Jam i give you props to sticking to your guns and defending yourself and rights but you are being as disrespectful to celtic as she is to you so both should calm down.

If this is personal take it to another thread. make a new one where you just hate on eachother and then the rest of us can throw in our opinions. Just don't hijack this thread.

Also jam, you should never blame the victim. I couldn't believe what i was reading, how dare you blame celtic for being raped? that is the dumbest crap i've ever read IN MY LIFE. I guess celtic had full kowledge of the guys intentions as well as full or even partial control of the guys actions.

Celtic you're falling into a trap yourself, you're supporting an and/with philosophy with a either/or mentality. You're tellin jam to opebn her mind while you have a closed mind yourself.

You both have posted crap arguments and should read them over to yourselves to realize all the idiotic posturing you've done. Neither of you were particularly logical or courteous. Maybe if you weren't attacking eachother and instead were discussing the topic it wouldn't have gone so horribly wrong.

Jamaica, stop ruining peoples' boards.

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If you honestly think the reason I got raped was my fault, you must be more moronic than a chicken. I would say more, but I pity stupid people who accidentally choose ignorance.

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We were all ignorant when we were born Celtic.... and actually, chickens are not morons... I adore chickens.. they are cute.

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Whatever... you creep me out Celtic... That is probably why (i dont mean this in a bad way, just a comment) you got raped, maybe because of the way you dressed or walked or talked (especially cussing) most predators think it is a challenge to them to girls who are the bad/trashy type. Like girls who cuss or whatever. Hey, i enjoy my body too, but i certainly dont want to flaunt it around when i know there are lots of dangers out there. It might harm my body. Hmmm... i would like to try being naked in front of you, but im a shy type of person... so i wouldnt do that.

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Of course I creep you out, you'll never meet anyone like me.

If you honestly think the reason I got raped was my fault, you must be more moronic than a chicken. I would say more, but I pity stupid people who accidentally choose ignorance.

In any case, I don't want you naked in front of me. I am nude when I am alone. ANd I'm not a lesbian.

I'm off. Russian class. Damn.

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That doesn't give you strength. Strength comes out of courage. You need courage. You have no courage.

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Courage comes from not being able to be influenced by bad things. I already have a lot of courage... i have a lot of courage, that even though, people hate me here in YN, i still keep on going my goodwill mission.

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You are afraid of other religions and other views, think wrong of them because you are ignorant of them.

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I am not afraid of them. that is why i am trying to lessen youth's problems by letting them believe in God and to do what is right and good. You're the one who is ignorant because you fail to see and you fail to choose what is right.

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You would have killed yourself if you went through half the things I've been through.

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Only someone like you would ever do that, Celtic..... It is obvious in your poem... the lines wherein you thought of suicide and cutting... ME?? i have never thought of that ever.

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What I've been trhough requires a wonderful deal of emotional strength many people lack.

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What you have been through is so common. I have seen and heard them on tv all the time... young teens getting pregnant and resulting to abortion... How sad.

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Geez, Jamaica, I'm always naked. I'm a nudist, basically, if I'm in my room, alone, I'm naked, or topless, or in my underwear. Unless I'm talking on webcam, then I'm dressed. I sleep naked. I enjoy my naked life. I enjoy my skin. My body. I am not ashamed of it. In fact, if a sculptor ever wanted to do me, as an artist myself, I'd allow him/her, and I would also love to paint a nude human, but it's kind of hard to ask.... "Hey, will you get naked for me? I would love to paint you."

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Whatever... you creep me out Celtic... That is probably why (i dont mean this in a bad way, just a comment) you got raped, maybe because of the way you dressed or walked or talked (especially cussing) most predators think it is a challenge to them to girls who are the bad/trashy type. Like girls who cuss or whatever. Hey, i enjoy my body too, but i certainly dont want to flaunt it around when i know there are lots of dangers out there. It might harm my body. Hmmm... i would like to try being naked in front of you, but im a shy type of person... so i wouldnt do that.

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Really... whatever.... I dont have to worry about that because unlike there in your place, guys here RESPECT women. Besides, skirts are beautiful. We wear skirts as our school uniform. It is very nice. I smell a naked girl in the closet.

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They respect us too. In my country, we're just, learned.

Geez, Jamaica, I'm always naked. I'm a nudist, basically, if I'm in my room, alone, I'm naked, or topless, or in my underwear. Unless I'm talking on webcam, then I'm dressed. I sleep naked. I enjoy my naked life. I enjoy my skin. My body. I am not ashamed of it. In fact, if a sculptor ever wanted to do me, as an artist myself, I'd allow him/her, and I would also love to paint a nude human, but it's kind of hard to ask.... "Hey, will you get naked for me? I would love to paint you."

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Hey, wake up Celtic! My life is not too easy. I have built this wall around myself of the power of saying NO to temptations which includes drugs, cussing, sex and abortion and suicide. My saying NO to these gives me strength.

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That doesn't give you strength. Strength comes out of courage. You need courage. You have no courage. You are afraid of other religions and other views, think wrong of them because you are ignorant of them. You will acquire strength when you have lived a little. Ok, when you have lived a lot. Like I have. You would have killed yourself if you went through half the things I've been through. What I've been trhough requires a wonderful deal of emotional strength many people lack.

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Skirts make penis insertion easier. I smell ***** Catholic schoolgirl on the closet.

Your life is too easy. Nothing better than a wonderful challenge to truly make you feel acomplished and powerful.

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Really... whatever.... I dont have to worry about that because unlike there in your place, guys here RESPECT women. Besides, skirts are beautiful. We wear skirts as our school uniform. It is very nice. I smell a naked girl in the closet.

Hey, wake up Celtic! My life is not too easy. I have built this wall around myself of the power of saying NO to temptations which includes drugs, cussing, sex and abortion and suicide. My saying NO to these gives me strength.

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Fine and good because i dont want you to influence me either. Sure, i'd keep my chastity belt on, besides, it is better that way than be naked and open. Wow.... I do love wearing skirts thank you very much. Just because i want to be chaste doesnt mean i cant wear skirts. I wear skirts because i am ladylike. Not for sex or for flirting. Yeah, how i love my life... I am responsible and i dont have to worry about a thing.

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Skirts make penis insertion easier. I smell ***** Catholic schoolgirl on the closet.

Your life is too easy. Nothing better than a wonderful challenge to truly make you feel acomplished and powerful.

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So what? tangling tongues with different boys, say, you have about 3 different bf's..... that is gross. I would rather make out with my one true love than make out with some guy who has made out with different girls before me.

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I am sad to tell you you will never find a boy who has never made out before unless he has a terrible acne and weighs 550 pounds.

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Yeah right. Were you mature when you decided to kill your child? To me, that is senseless. I might be 18 but at least i have this great decision to wait until marriage to have sex because i place LOVE above sex.

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To you. If you have not noticed, I don't respect you OR your opinions. I find you to be an insult of human intelligence and hope to hell you are another YNer faking it because if not I will have to deal with even dumber people than I imagined.

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really.... How sad. True LOVE waits, it doesnt rush into sexual relationships to know if you are soulmates or not.

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You don't know that because you've never loved a man. I have more rights to argue on it than you. I win.

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Unconditional love shows in being able to accpet the challenges you were pushed through like when you got pregnant. If you are mature, you'd be able to accept it and raise it even if you have to have help from your parents. One way or another, we NEED their help.

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Unconditional love means you won't ***** around this website and tell people stupid things because your ego makes you think you are the Queen of England.

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I also do that before i go to sleep. I have been to one of Mother Teresa's organization here in the Philippines and visited the children and the nuns there. I was able to help a poor streetchild by inviting her to our school during Christmas and gave her food and other gifts. She told me I was a very kind person and to me, it was forever imprinted in me.

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Meh, if something like the Beslan Siege happens there, go. Then, when everyone's life is at risk, both the victims and the helpers, is when you will truly realize whether you are brave enough to love unconditionally and be a help in this world.

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want to help too.... What about all those posts i have created about saying no to temptations and stuff?? It is one way of my helping other people. Not just in deeds, but by words too.

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Words are not actions. Plus, this is the internet. No one really cares for one another, only in some rare cases, over the internet.

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You might not realize it but children are the future of the world. They should be given love. It is easier to give love to other people but it is more difficult to love a child and therefore, it is a challenge. Learn from that.

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To love a child is not a challenge. A child has an aura of innocence and beauty that's easy to love and care for. Loving another person that isn't a child is more of a challenge. And I mean random people. Not friends. Not family. That guy you pay at the grocery store, for example.

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I don't want to influence you. To influence you would be to try to make you like me. And I would hate it for you to become like me, then I have lazied off and reached my intellectual fall. So, yes, keep your chastity belt on and don't wear skirts, and I shall go to university and purchase condoms. How I love my life. I manage to have fun and be responsible.

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Fine and good because i dont want you to influence me either. Sure, i'd keep my chastity belt on, besides, it is better that way than be naked and open. Wow.... I do love wearing skirts thank you very much. Just because i want to be chaste doesnt mean i cant wear skirts. I wear skirts because i am ladylike. Not for sex or for flirting. Yeah, how i love my life... I am responsible and i dont have to worry about a thing.

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Making out is kissing. Not sex. Thank you.

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So what? tangling tongues with different boys, say, you have about 3 different bf's..... that is gross. I would rather make out with my one true love than make out with some guy who has made out with different girls before me.

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Don't tell me 18 is the good age for sex. Some people are 18 and fools. Age is nothing. I am 15 but have the mind of a 35 year old. It's called maturity.

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Yeah right. Were you mature when you decided to kill your child? To me, that is senseless. I might be 18 but at least i have this great decision to wait until marriage to have sex because i place LOVE above sex.

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I have loved. Trust me, and I am in love right now.

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really.... How sad. True LOVE waits, it doesnt rush into sexual relationships to know if you are soulmates or not.

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I have loved unconditionally many times, it's a trait I have that has brought me to be hurt by the many evil *******s of this world. I am revengeful but I love.

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Unconditional love shows in being able to accpet the challenges you were pushed through like when you got pregnant. If you are mature, you'd be able to accept it and raise it even if you have to have help from your parents. One way or another, we NEED their help.

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I discovered this when I cared for people I didn't even know in Moscow. I cared for them, I slept thinking about them and how they were and if I could do something to help them. That's universal love. Learn that.

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I also do that before i go to sleep. I have been to one of Mother Teresa's organization here in the Philippines and visited the children and the nuns there. I was able to help a poor streetchild by inviting her to our school during Christmas and gave her food and other gifts. She told me I was a very kind person and to me, it was forever imprinted in me.

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I help and care people I barely know, and it is something this world doesn't understand. Or is not ready to. Or, since I have a different approach to doing it, people don't understand me in that sense. The thing is, regardless of everything I have done, I am innocent in the soul, giving me traits I can't really explain.

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I want to help too.... What about all those posts i have created about saying no to temptations and stuff?? It is one way of my helping other people. Not just in deeds, but by words too.

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The fact that someone is a child does not mean you will love them. Don't go Michael Jackson on me and say otherwise, it's hypocritical bull. Love is not easily given and acquired, when you do receive it (and I'm not talking about guys here alone, I'm saying people in general), you know you've hit a divine point in your life.

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You might not realize it but children are the future of the world. They should be given love. It is easier to give love to other people but it is more difficult to love a child and therefore, it is a challenge. Learn from that.

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Are you insane?? Didnt you read my post in Virginity?? I said i am going to be a virgin until i get married. Sorry, celtic, but please dont influence me with your bad influences.

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Making out is kissing. Not sex. Thank you.

I don't want to influence you. To influence you would be to try to make you like me. And I would hate it for you to become like me, then I have lazied off and reached my intellectual fall. So, yes, keep your chastity belt on and don't wear skirts, and I shall go to university and purchase condoms. How I love my life. I manage to have fun and be responsible.

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Are you insane? Obviously you've never made out. When that happens, call me. Really. I want to know what you did.

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Are you insane?? Didnt you read my post in Virginity?? I said i am going to be a virgin until i get married. Sorry, celtic, but please dont influence me with your bad influences.