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Picture of CelticNewAger
Registered: December 11, 2003
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Actually, you DIDN'T get the point. Yes, sex is pleasurable. But did God even mentioned that, "hey, i have given you this gift so that you can have one night stands and have lots of o.r.g.a.s.m.s" God, gave us sex organs so that we might be able to have intercourse and then produce offspring. It is man, who initiated sex for pleasure, which to me, is abuse. Abuse, in the sense that, people who have sex outside marriage or those who are not yet 18 and above, are having sex just so they could experience it, not because of love.
And yes, you live for YOUR life because you have never known what it is to love unconditionally... which means, to love someone and put someone else's life before your own... such as a kid perhaps.


Are you insane? Obviously you've never made out. When that happens, call me. Really. I want to know what you did.

Don't tell me 18 is the good age for sex. Some people are 18 and fools. Age is nothing. I am 15 but have the mind of a 35 year old. It's called maturity.

I have loved. Trust me, and I am in love right now. I have loved unconditionally many times, it's a trait I have that has brought me to be hurt by the many evil *******s of this world. I am revengeful but I love. I discovered this when I cared for people I didn't even know in Moscow. I cared for them, I slept thinking about them and how they were and if I could do something to help them. That's universal love. Learn that.

I help and care people I barely know, and it is something this world doesn't understand. Or is not ready to. Or, since I have a different approach to doing it, people don't understand me in that sense. The thing is, regardless of everything I have done, I am innocent in the soul, giving me traits I can't really explain.

The fact that someone is a child does not mean you will love them. Don't go Michael Jackson on me and say otherwise, it's hypocritical bull. Love is not easily given and acquired, when you do receive it (and I'm not talking about guys here alone, I'm saying people in general), you know you've hit a divine point in your life.

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No, i mean people who are practicing polygamy. If they decide to marry someone from outside their clan or whatever who DOESN'T practice polygamy, they might be able to affect the other person too... emotionally, spiritually as well as physically.


Ah well, of course. But the person decides whether he/she wants to do that or not, it's not guaranteed to happen.

In any case, I believe polygamy should be left for Amish or traditional Mormon families.

(Yes, I am feeling spiritual today)


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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If SEX was for procreation ONLY, God wouldn't have given us sex organs that make sex feel good. In fact, he would have made it painful to have sex so we wouldn't have sex for pleasure.

Also, I can deny whatever the **** I want, especially if it is a matter of opinion, such as what you said. Perhaps cleaning and raising 13 children will make you happy, but it won't make me happy. I live for my life and not yours. Suck it up.


Actually, you DIDN'T get the point. Yes, sex is pleasurable. But did God even mentioned that, "hey, i have given you this gift so that you can have one night stands and have lots of o.r.g.a.s.m.s" God, gave us sex organs so that we might be able to have intercourse and then produce offspring. It is man, who initiated sex for pleasure, which to me, is abuse. Abuse, in the sense that, people who have sex outside marriage or those who are not yet 18 and above, are having sex just so they could experience it, not because of love.
And yes, you live for YOUR life because you have never known what it is to love unconditionally... which means, to love someone and put someone else's life before your own... such as a kid perhaps.
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Marry outside their clan? Wait, do you plan on marrying your cousin or something?


No, i mean people who are practicing polygamy. If they decide to marry someone from outside their clan or whatever who DOESN'T practice polygamy, they might be able to affect the other person too... emotionally, spiritually as well as physically.
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You can't change what man has done in the past, 30 years, to say the least, to just mention modern times. No one will stop anything just because you (or anyone else) thinks he/she should stop their actions, they have free will, and you can't force them unless you hold a weapon on their throat, which would be stupid of you because then you can get arrested and end up screwed anyways.


Anything is possible if you let WILLINGNESS TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER in your heart. and plus, I AM NOT THE TYPE to hold a weapon to their throats. Actually, i think it is more of YOUR type.
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Yes, it does affect EVERYONE. what about the their offspring??? They might have acquired some disease from one of their parents because of polygamy... Some infants can acquire them by birth. And what about when the children grow up and marry too??? If they decide to marry outside their clan, they would carry their diseases and even their practice to others.


Marry outside their clan? Wait, do you plan on marrying your cousin or something?


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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That's different. If something has to do with you, such, as, say taxes, then you should have a say on it. People's marriages will affec no one, only the persons getting married.


Yes, it does affect EVERYONE. what about the their offspring??? They might have acquired some disease from one of their parents because of polygamy... Some infants can acquire them by birth. And what about when the children grow up and marry too??? If they decide to marry outside their clan, they would carry their diseases and even their practice to others.
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if that is the way you feel, tell me, why do we HAVE rules at all if everyone can just do whatever they want?? And if someone breaks the rules, YOU'RE not going to do anything about it?


That's different. If something has to do with you, such, as, say taxes, then you should have a say on it. People's marriages will affec no one, only the persons getting married.

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Actually, a SERVANT TO GOD to help man repent his ways.



You can't change what man has done in the past, 30 years, to say the least, to just mention modern times. No one will stop anything just because you (or anyone else) thinks he/she should stop their actions, they have free will, and you can't force them unless you hold a weapon on their throat, which would be stupid of you because then you can get arrested and end up screwed anyways.

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Well, it is true anyway... AND dont even DENY it. If we weren't born to carry and raise babies, then why do we have 2 ovaries and fallopian tubes and a vagina into which the baby will pass out instead of some body part that doesnt have a HOLE into which a baby will pass out??????????? Originally, sex IS for procreation and we were made to raise children so that there would be another generation. THAT is the original function of women. But today, SEX is so casual, it makes me gag, and NO you CANNOT be a man's slave for his selfish reasons UNLESS YOU WANT TO. IT is all a matter of choice Celtic.


If SEX was for procreation ONLY, God wouldn't have given us sex organs that make sex feel good. In fact, he would have made it painful to have sex so we wouldn't have sex for pleasure.

Also, I can deny whatever the **** I want, especially if it is a matter of opinion, such as what you said. Perhaps cleaning and raising 13 children will make you happy, but it won't make me happy. I live for my life and not yours. Suck it up.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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actually your a servant to man, so what the hell do you care?


Actually, a SERVANT TO GOD to help man repent his ways.
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No, I don't. In fact, I could careless. What they do is their business and no one elses.


if that is the way you feel, tell me, why do we HAVE rules at all if everyone can just do whatever they want?? And if someone breaks the rules, YOU'RE not going to do anything about it?
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Hate to burst your bubble, but with that "women are made only for babies" attitude for you you will be you man's slave.


Well, it is true anyway... AND dont even DENY it. If we weren't born to carry and raise babies, then why do we have 2 ovaries and fallopian tubes and a vagina into which the baby will pass out instead of some body part that doesnt have a HOLE into which a baby will pass out??????????? Originally, sex IS for procreation and we were made to raise children so that there would be another generation. THAT is the original function of women. But today, SEX is so casual, it makes me gag, and NO you CANNOT be a man's slave for his selfish reasons UNLESS YOU WANT TO. IT is all a matter of choice Celtic.
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I really don't care.

If homosexuals marry, I don't care.

If heterosexuals marry, I don't care.

If goats and elephants marry, I don’t care.

As long as it does not affect me, I don't care.

Life is much more content when you only worry about yourself, with few exceptions.




oh god...i couldn't agree more. I don't care about polygamy...if she wants to share her man with 5 other women...hey thats her!!


*Opinions are like @$$holes...everybody's got one*
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If that stuff was something we shouldn't worry about, how come it's in our face all the time?


Maybe cause some people think that THEIR way is the only way, and everyone should be living life in the same way?


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Not caring about anyone and their actions aside from you and yourself is called living in a state of APATHY. Apathy is not cool, as a matter of fact it's kind of selfish. It's kind of like looking out the window and seeing someone robbing your neighbor, but it doesn't affect you so you don't do anything. People say "of course you should do something, they are robbing your neighbor's house". We are expected not to be apathetic about crime and so called "injustices" but if we see something that concerns us like for instance gay marriage or polygamy or abortion we are supposed to just be apathetic and say "well that doesn't affect me like a crime or whatever, so I shouldn't worry about it." If that stuff was something we shouldn't worry about, how come it's in our face all the time?


"Mac, you ever been in love?" - "No, I've been a bartender all my life."
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Yes. I wish that some people would just break away from it. Because, it's not only a religion, it's a lifestyle. And people have broken away, but have been dissowned and shunned by the whole community. I know a couple polygamists, and they're not all bad, but what we think is wrong, they think is a lifestyle.


Evitere Les Contrefacons.
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Now that I've thought about it some more, I think I might give this a "nay." Because if polygamy isn't outlawed, doesn't that mean that (if we were married) my bf that I love dearly could go out and marry other women? Meaning, I couldn't do anything about that but I wouldn't want to leave him because I love him. So, that would suck. Then again, if it were someone I love, I'd love him because he wouldn't do stuff like that, right?

...this makes my head spin...


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actually, I am a servant of God to help man repent his bad ways.


Hate to burst your bubble, but with that "women are made only for babies" attitude for you you will be you man's slave.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Yes. I'm really a pessimistic optimist. I'd like to believe people learn; so I keep trying. Guess I should give up, huh?

Unless you weren't talking to me, bauhaus. I wouldn't be suprised if no one ever talked to me again. I'm in such a conflictid mood right now, so conflicted, it's kind of dangerous...


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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most people learn from their mistakes...

some people don't and just keep coming back.


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Dude. People just shut up, okay?


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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No, I don't. In fact, I could careless. What they do is their business and no one elses.


The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. - Robert Bloch
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