EgyptianQueen69 your logic is stupid, its called the slippery slope, look it up.

I think the whole random drug testing thing is ****** up!!! Next thing u know they will be going to people house's and "randomly" drug test them!!!

[This message was edited by YNLissa on July 13, 2004 at 10:54 AM.]

I think that the only time schools should be able to drug test an athelete is when they think there is a serious problem going on. other than that i think it is complete bull and a waste. like at my school we dont have drug testing we have drug dogs come in and sniff our lockers and the insides of our cars ! do you think thats an invasion of privacy?

p.s. i hate polka dots too!

I think its okay to have random drug searches at school only if there is high suspicion. If you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't mind. And if you fight about it they'll suspect it more and administration can report it to police for drug suspicion.

i think it's invasion of privacy. It's stupid if you ask me... but roan, instead of writing you feelings on the internet... more than once... do something. Don't just sit there... do something... you seem like one of those people who stand by what they believe and try to inforce to right way things should be done. You could start a petition against and give to the board of education. You could even bring it up a youth city council meeting and bring it up to city council. If it means that much then maybe you could try to change it.

I really don't care. I have nothing hide.

What I meant was testing only if you have some kind of lead. Like if you could smell pot on some kid or if their friend turned them in. Of course I didnt mean discriminate against those who look like pot smokers. But most of them do look sort of obvious in their behaviors.

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i still don't see the point in the random drug testing, except to waste tax payer money.

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I think that the most reasonable conclusion you can come to regarding the point of random drug testing is to test to see if random people are doing drugs.

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It isn't mandatory to take part in extracaricular activites. Dont just post the first thing that comes to your mind man. It is stupid

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true, i forgot we were still talking about extracaricular activites, my bad. i still don't see the point in the random drug testing, except to waste tax payer money.

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no it isnt, its mandatory to goto school, it isnt mandatory to work for an employer that drug tests

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It isn't mandatory to take part in extracaricular activites. Dont just post the first thing that comes to your mind man. It is stupid.

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Drug testing is random in the workplace, it is fair to be random in the schools.

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no it isnt, its mandatory to goto school, it isnt mandatory to work for an employer that drug tests

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If there is a student who is suspected of drug use, yes. But some random person who doesnt do drugs no!

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But if you don't do random drug testing on students you don't think do drugs, and just test on students who look or act like they do drugs, then there's a possibility that the school will be accused of discrimination. That's why airlines don't just do "random" bag checks on people that look like terrorists; they add little old ladies and young children so it doesn't look discriminatory.

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Drug testing is random in the workplace, it is fair to be random in the schools.

MY SCHOOL WOULDNT HAVE A BASKETBALL OR FOOTBALL TEAM IF THEY TESTED

How do you suspect someone of drug use? I could look at you bunnybabe and without ever even talking to you say yea I think she might do drugs. Then should I have the right to pull you out of the class you wanted to learn in and search you because I thought you might have drugs?

If there is a student who is suspected of drug use, yes. But some random person who doesnt do drugs no! I dont do drugs, but if I were selected at random I would refuse. Suspend me for all I care I still would not do it. I dont believe in stuff like that.

random drug testing people in "clubs and sports"...that would be ALL extracurriculars, right? If the argument for these drug tests is to make sure people aren't cheating at sports, then there's no point in randomly making a drama club student take the test. If the point is to try and eliminate drug usage in the general student body, then targetting only the involved student is just going to make kids who do drugs quit their extracurriculars. The plan really doesn't make much sense...I mean, apart from the whole amendment-breaching bit.

I'm just trowing out my personal opinion, take it or leave it...

When you sign up for atletics and extra-curriculars (at least in all of the schools I've gone to) you are required to sign forms that say you will remain chemically free during the season, so if the school wants to run random drug tests on athletes, I see no problem with that, as you signed a document stating you would be chemically free.

Anyway, that's just me.

I know that some people think drugs should be legal, and that's their opinion, personally, I've never drank/ smoked/ whatever, it just doesn't appeal to me, so it's not a big deal to me. For others it's a big deal. And that's how it is with just about any issue.

i think that random drug testing is wrong! period. point blank.

i agree with naps, you have been brainwashed by the school, stop believing everything you hear.