Generally, there are two groups of thought with regard to behaviour of children. Historically, one group believes that children need to be disciplined through the different disciplinary methods. On the contrast, the others group believes that children will outgrow their misbehaving stage and as they grow up, they will automatically behave themself. Moreover, they believe that disciplining a child will eventually lead to reduce child's creativity.......
So should children be disciplined from young??? Or there is no real need to discipline children when they misbehave???
Do you think we should discard the former and old tradition concept and accept new concept in our life, which is called "resocialization"???

Well, the punishment definitely needs to be unpleasant. Sending a kid to a room full of toys to "think about what he did" on a Saturday afternoon would have no effect at all. Marching a kid home from a birthday party he was really looking forward to and sending him to his room would leave more of a lasting impression. For disciplinary purposes, parents need to know their kids well enough to know where to hit them so it hurts. I just don't think actual hitting is a necessary part of it.

But no matter which path you choose, I think follow-through is the most important part. The kid needs to know that if he's gonna behave unreasonably, you're gonna mean business 100% of the time.

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long time-out or a week-long TV ban

see I find time bans like that to be ineffective, rather like prison sentances, our parents generation would do the exact same thing we do or did when we get a time out "oh yeah dad I'm thinking about what I did " and in the end that lacks effectiveness just because the kids don't care. Hell when I was little I acted up in class because I liked going to the detention room and getting away from the other kids. I gurantee if the teachers could paddle you, or even do the infamous "knuckle tap" made famous in catholic schools I wouldn't have been screwing around.

In the end it's kind of like house training a puppy. When the dog goes in the house you rub his nose in it so he's know what he did wrong, you raise your voice at him so know's it's him and you paddle him so he doesn't do it again. Raising a dog in the modern method of child rearing would be more like, everytime he goes in the house speak to him softly and every so times (or every time) you put him outside or in a shed for a certain period of time. Guess what? that dog won't hunt and he'll still go to the bathroom in the house.

Discipline is indeed essential. Yes, kids do naturally socialize and learn acceptable behaviors from those around them as they grow up, but this by itself is not enough. You can (and should -- in fact, it's your duty as a parent) teach your child the basics of what is right and wrong without stifling his individuality or creativity.

I work in a library and get to see parents dealing with their children a lot. There are an amazing number of parents who take a "let's not punish, let's talk about our feelings" attitude. Such an attitude is commendable for certain situations, but when a child is grabbing books off a shelf and hurling them across the room, saying, "Honey, why do you feel the need to do that?" is just not the correct response.

As for spanking, it's a touchy issue. I don't think I'd do it myself, but I'm not about to go around telling people how to raise their kids (well, except maybe in the above paragraph). I do often hear the claim that "nothing else works," and I can't help but wonder if this is really the case, or whether parents just lack follow-through. I would imagine a long time-out or a week-long TV ban would actually be extremely effective if the parents didn't cave in, which I suspect they often do.

Train up a child in the way he should go; and when he is old he shall not depart from it
-Proverbs XXII:6


Discipline is essential, that's not to say regiment their lives with a tight schedule but set strong standards of behavior and firm rules and enforce them with word and deed. None of this time out shit, I know it didn't work for me, I had to teach myself discipline. Spank that kid but use restraint both in frequency and in strength it's a punishment not an execution

How do you define discipline? Is it the physical, or the psychological, or both?