Well, I know that neither of us will convince the other who is wrong or right. I still think Evolution doesn't make sense, but hey, that's what I believe.
That's why I started talking about this in the first place, not because I just wanted to argue, or convince others that I'm right, but because evolution hasn't been proven any more true than Christianity, so they should either stop preaching Evolution in the schools or start teaching other religions EQUALLY along side of it. And like I said before, this way students can study each religion and make a decision for themselves on what they want to believe.
That's all I have to say. Nice chattin' with y'all!

love the name.

but for me it's evolution, it just makes more sense to me, to me it gives more reason and meaning behind things. but for some people Christianity or a god gives more meaning and understanding, and that's fine too.

you are right, parts of Christianity have been proved too. i think much of the bible is very valid, but it is not what I base my beleifs on. it is a great book of history to me.

but not all of it has been scientifically "proven", that is left to faith.

we have found skeletons of the changing apes. many of them in fact.

you can learn about creationism in church, thats why we learn about evolution in school. you don't have to beleive what they tell you. i go to a christian youth group to learn but i don't beleive everything they tell me.

There are things on this earth that i have seen that I cannot explain, this I can not deny. but i beleive that eventually they will be explained whether it be in the word of "God" or by scientific fact.

Here goes...
the reason the monkeys evolved:
first of all it wasn't the monkey's, it was closer to an ape. but neway. it evolved because it was adapting to a changing environment as you put it. the world was changing and they were migrating. the reason the worm didn't as much was because it was already well formed to it's environment. it is near the bottom of a food chain and that is why there are so many of them.

today we can see this forming to fit the environment in skin color. people native to areas near the equator have the darkest skin and those farthest have the lightest (for the most part)this saves those living under the harsh sun the most from skin damage from UV rays (that is why fair people tend to burn easier)

-Phoebe

Evolution is not "scientific fact",it's a theory.
I believe in Creation.I also believe that if Evolution of apes into humans were true,then why ,after millions of years, did no other animals evolve into a creature as intelligent and completely distinct as humans?If all this is a coincidence then there must've been other animals turning in markedly different creatures,ones that can adapt by creation(clothes,complex homes,airplanes,writing) rather than entirely by "survival of the fittest".Even the smartest monkey's no smarter than a toddler-if that's the species we're descended from(or a descendant of that species)then surely some of them-without the benefit of any external factor) would've reached the IQ level of a 10 ten-old or so? Besides,dolphins are intelligent,did they also evolve into mermaids?(joke).So,what do you people think ?

Christianity has been proved too. Dead sea scrolls, wells, artifacts, sightings of the Ark, miraculous healings and touches from God. All these things have been found to prove that what the Bible says is true.
Evolution has found a skull. I'm just thinking that if we're able to find full skeletons of dinosaurs that existed WAAAYYY before these "apes evolved into humans" then HOW COME WE HAVEN'T FOUND FULL SKELETONS OF THE CHANGING APES?!?!
Also, I didn't say that they should stop teaching Evolution altogether. I said that if they're going to teach Evolution, they need to teach other religions equally as much, so students can CHOOSE what they want to believe.
Another minor note... I believe in minor evolution, which is the ability for creatures to adapt to their environment. However, I don't believe that a monkey just one day decides that it needs to become a big, powerful human being. I mean, monkey aren't at the bottom of the food chain! Why did monkeys have to evolve?! Why not some poor helpless creature like a worm? Huh?
If you have an answer to that one, I'd like to hear it.

Ok for one thing Evolution isn't a religion it is scientific fact. people believe in evolution with reptiles and amphibians but they can't seem to grasp the fact with mammals. What is wrong with schools teaching evolution, at least is has been proved, whether you choose to believe in it or not. Evolution is simple fact, it isn't stories and it isn't based around higher beings, it is the fact that animals adapt and change to different environments. Ever wonder why some turtles are huge while some are tiny well it was proved that they adapt to the environment and where they get their food sources and naturally grow bigger some of them having long necks to reach small trees and plants. Evolution isn't a therory or form of belief, it isn't something people worship and devote themselves to, it is fact proven again and again in many different cases with many different animals. If people want to deny facts and form a belief that makes them feel better, safer, and so that they feel they aren't alone, then that's fine. People need to believe in whatever makes them happy and feel safe whether it can be proved or not. As long as you aren't inflicting your beliefs on others and your beliefs aren't making you discriminate aganist any other people then people can believe what ever they want. There is no right or wrong. If you want to belive in Christianity or Judism or whatever religion you choose to believe in you are entitled to do so because there isn't a clear answer or a right religion so whatever makes you feel the best about your life and helps motivate you is the religion you should have, it may not be the same one as your family or friends, but it doesn't matter. There is no right as long as you respect everyones different religions.

Okay, for years adults have been complaining that our youths of today are getting worse and worse and a lot of them don't have any respect for their country, elders, or really anything. Ever notice that since we separated church and state and started teaching Evolution in schools things have gotten worse? That's because the school is cramming into childrens' heads that Evolution is fact, yet it doesn't give them ANY guidelines on how they should live or any explinations of this world. It just doesn't make any sense. Therefore, people make up their own rules and we have gradually gotten worse and worse as a society.
Now, I'm not saying that we should start shoving Christianity into schools, but we do need to stop teaching Evolution. If we're gonna learn about Evolution, they need to say "this is what Scientists believe, but you may not believe it to be true" and then explain some other religions as well. That way students are free to explore the path that they want to choose.
I, personally, know where I stand and I know that God and Jesus are real and there is no one and nothing on this earth that could convince me otherwise.
As my final note, I just want to encourage any of you out there that don't know the Lord as your personal savior. Especially after these Terror Attacks, you're probably realizing that life is precious. You need to be sure about where you are going for that day when you do die. Trust me, if you put your hope in God and believe in his son, Jesus Christ, you will NOT be disappointed! He's offering you ETERNAL LIFE with him in heaven! What have you got to lose?! NOTHING! If you still don't believe me...look around you...think about the heavens, how everything in your body just works so amazingly, how people can express so many emotions.... you cannot be convinced that all these wonderful things just *poofed* into place by evolution. Such things could only happen through the higher, supernatural being that God is.
If you have comments, you can reach me at princess_ratface@yahoo.com I'll be glad to talk to anyone!

i totally see what you are sayin' nsync. it is wrong that people make fun of you at school, but don't think that all people of those faiths are like that. i am agnostic but i have friends of many faiths and i will stick up for them if anyone is ever giving them crap about it.

purepoet...
I agree with alot of what you said but, i do think that Jesus Christ was a real person who walked upon this earth, it is completely plausable, I just don't know that he was the messiah, but that is beside the point.

Your faith may not agree with this but Jesus was a human and hence had a sex (male). Whether he was the "Son of God" or not is beside the point, most Christians beleive he was a man.

You probably meant "God" is neither man or woman, or you might believe that they are the same thing like some churches do.

-Phoebe

Jesus is not racist, Jesus is not fake. Jesus is not prejudice, Jesus is not hate. Jesus is neither man nor woman, Jesus is not judemental. Jesus just is.
I think we should be able to study Jesus if we are allowed to touch on Judaism or Islam. If we can't do that, then we should not talk about any of it at all. It offends Christians not to be able to talk of Jesus, but we fail to remember that sometimes Muslims or Jewish kids are embarrassed about it or angry about the way they are portrayed in text books. Think about the whole picture instead of studying only the most vivid of pieces.

i dont think in any case jesus should be in school because he is stupid and not everyone wants to believe in him because he was made up

I'm not sure where that came from...

But for my view on religion in schools...
I agree with pretty much everyone on here. I think religion should only be taught in schools if it is necessary to put events in context. For instance, my literature class covered the Old Testament at the beginning of the semester. Why? Because strictly from a academic standpoint, the Bible is one of the great literary works. But there was no preaching going on during the discussion. But suprisingly enough...there was there an altar call (just a joke...)
I also don't think you'll have to worry about laws getting passed to ban Christian shows from T.V. because network execs would ban them anyway. They simply don't believe there's a big enough market base for the shows. "Touched by an Angel" is just considered a fluke.

Jesus is racist!

i agree with those of you who say it should not be taught in school... if you want to learn about religion in school go to private schools.. public schools are there for everyone of any race, religion, shape, form, the wealthy, or not so wealthy, ANYONE to feel confortable, and to be able to learn the things we need to know to become successful human beings.. and i dont know if you have ever felt unconfortable in school, for any reason, but its very difficult to learn, and consontrate on what you're doing if you just dont feel like you can be you... i have said this before, and will say it agian.. i think there is a time and place for everything, and practising or learning about religion is not the right time, nor place when you are at school.

i think that it would make me uncomfortable to have to learn about god and stuff in school cause that is what church is for. also what about the teachers do you think the teachers would like to teach a certain religion that maybe they don't even believe in?

I go to public school so we have no mention of religion there. However I agree with the people who said you should learn it on your own time. I think that school is for learning what you need in the world. Obviously you need faith but that is only one thing. You will need many things in the world. That's why they learn all the other subjects. Also it is to hard to teach religion. There are so many different religions it is impossible to adequately cover them all.

i go to a public school, so obviously it doesn't teach religion of any kind. however, it does go over some aspects. for example, english classes have to review some biblical stories for reference in literature, and history classes cover some basic ideas of different religions. this is the ONLY reason why i think any religion should be brought into the public school curriculum: for LEARNING purposes. if it is important to the curriculum, then it should be taught. if you think its important, but the school board DOESN'T, no one's stopping you from making a club right? find some other people with the same beliefs and talk about it with them. the school board can't possibly have anything against that.

I get what u sayin, and i like learning about other religions, but they don't teach social studies stuff, about jesus, and why should we skip over dat, if we don't hafta skip over the others. if they don't teach God as the only religion in school, OK, i'll do it at home and church.

It is not your right as an American citizen to learn about God in school. There is a separation of church and state, check out the Constitution. Religion was ended in public schools because it hs no place there. There are poeple of many different religions in public schools. In trying to teach religion, certainly one would be left out or taught incorrectly. It would offend the majority of people, especially those whose religions were left out.

There is no need for harsh language. If you are a Christian you will recall God saying he is a jealous God, and you may only believe in him for you to get to Heaven. I understand that not everyone believes, but that is why evangalist are trying to convert the world. If I want to learn about God in school, that is my right at an American citizen. But, one day, some old lady, came up and ended religion in school. I practice my religion where ever I want. Now, they were and still are trying to pass a law, to get Christian shows off TV. Tell me, what am I supposed to do then, when Pastors can't preach when I am sick, and can't go to church? That whole law was STUPID! I know that some people don't care, but what about those who do?

what I am saying is that if you need to know the beliefs, main points, and background of a certain religon to learn about a specific area, culture, or time, then it is fine to have it in the curriculum, but is it isn't needed then it shouldn't be taught.