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Picture of Karategirl28
Registered: February 18, 2004
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Ok, I just found out today my school added some more survalience cameras in the hallways. Students privacy is getting cut down to nothing. There are random drugs searches that aren't so random because they target the same kids also.
These were some of the topics off a survey that an english teacher sent around. So anyways my point behind this....which do you think is more important a individual's rights or the good of society? Do you think we deserve (the students) to have some privacy in our schools today?


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Picture of Jester004
Registered: March 07, 2007
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your wrong if you feel that they are invading your privacy then you have somthing to hide. you shouldnt care about cameras in the halls or drug tests, i understand where you are coming from but your in a public place and you shouild understand they have all the right in the world to drug test at "random
Picture of wudup14
Registered: January 31, 2005
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I think that maybe we should have cameras in the halls because it would help with the ones who duistrupt the lockers and other things. Also, we could rid of false accusations, plus i'm just waiting until i see a teacher do something wrong!
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Registered: August 14, 2004
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Originally posted by yogore:
I was simply replying to what I saw. Jokes about your school really are a tricky thing to make on the board. We don't all go there.


Yeah i know, sorry about that... I was just letting you know so that no one engaged in a real argument over it.


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Picture of jibou345
Registered: December 15, 2004
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ya okay darklight_2005 my school has 230 students middle and high school and we have cameras installed too....why? Like Karategirl28 says, all the random drug serches we have are targetting the same people...so why put in a camera if they search the same people?


Jibou D.
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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I was simply replying to what I saw. Jokes about your school really are a tricky thing to make on the board. We don't all go there.


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Registered: August 14, 2004
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well they aint stopping a certain english teacher from smoking in the staff bathroom
Well, obviously there won't be cameras in the bathrooms. I think the point was to moniter the activities in the halls. Even if both parties are suspended, they can know what actually happened.


I'm sorry but the irony of my comment was directed at Karate... dont over analyze it.


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Registered: February 02, 2004
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well they aint stopping a certain english teacher from smoking in the staff bathroom
Well, obviously there won't be cameras in the bathrooms. I think the point was to moniter the activities in the halls. Even if both parties are suspended, they can know what actually happened.


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Registered: August 14, 2004
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Which doesn't really matter anyway because under Henrys "Fair but Firm" fighting policy both students get suspended for 5 days, no matter who started it or finished it.


See my point? How are cameras there changing anything except the amount of electricity used to run the school? And maybe to prove you were involved in the fight, so you can get suspended too.

What are the cameras REALLY preventing?


well they aint stopping a certain english teacher from smoking in the staff bathroom


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Registered: February 18, 2004
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Which doesn't really matter anyway because under Henrys "Fair but Firm" fighting policy both students get suspended for 5 days, no matter who started it or finished it.


See my point? How are cameras there changing anything except the amount of electricity used to run the school? And maybe to prove you were involved in the fight, so you can get suspended too.

What are the cameras REALLY preventing?


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Registered: August 14, 2004
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I m just saying do you want them searching your pockets/ purses? Or reading EVERY note you've written to your friends.


I don't mind the cameras, but how are they making it safer when it is only evidence? It can't magically stop a fight when a kid gets beaten to a pulp, it only proves the other kid did it.

Which doesn't really matter anyway because under Henrys "Fair but Firm" fighting policy both students get suspended for 5 days, no matter who started it or finished it.


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Registered: February 18, 2004
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I m just saying do you want them searching your pockets/ purses? Or reading EVERY note you've written to your friends.


I don't mind the cameras, but how are they making it safer when it is only evidence? It can't magically stop a fight when a kid gets beaten to a pulp, it only proves the other kid did it.


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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Oh my... Where is Celtic? She'll love this...

Copyright infringement?


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Registered: December 28, 2004
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Hey toucan here
what privacy do we need its not like we are there to do waht we want to do! We sit there learn eat and go home do we really need privacy to do any of those things? I didnt think so!

L8er


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Registered: July 25, 2004
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What privacy do we actually need in school? We are there to learn, that's why they do install survelliance cameras in the schools. If we didn't have survelliance cameras in my school, we might have never found out who set fire to the locker or who jumped who. It's for the students protection. Next, I'm going to hear that Target and Kmart shouldn't have cameras because it's a problem for our rights. It's to protect us. Get over it!

What privacy do you need? To make out in the hallway with your boyfriend or to skip out of class? If you are worried about the cameras, then you must be doing something you don't want anyone to find out about because school is just like a Kmart, they have to protect their environment and business and make sure everythings safe.


Jenny
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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So anyways my point behind this....which do you think is more important a individual's rights or the good of society?

Individual rights

quote:
Do you think we deserve (the students) to have some privacy in our schools today?

No
Picture of Megz87
Registered: January 16, 2004
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not to be rude or anything but deal with it.i've lived with cameras at my school for the past two years.but out of about 15-20 cameras only 2 work
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Where do you put your stuff? Are you supposed to keep it in bags all day? That seems like it would instigate even more problems.


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Registered: April 03, 2004
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Least you have lockers, my school doesn't.


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Picture of freedomordeath
Registered: June 02, 2004
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Well, good, I don't doubt they are in some places.


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