haha...your dont drop the soap comment made my day...no...but schools are starting to be like prison...at least at some places...

Maybe not PRISON. But some sort of restricting place like that.

Don't drop the soap.

I think that clear backpacks are taking it to far. My school has camaras. No metal detectors or anything. I think that metal detectors and clear back packs are taking security too far...it's like your in a prison...

I go to a high school with about 1500 students if that. It's a small school and we do have cameras in all the downstairs hallways. Why not the upstairs? I have no clue. The cameras have been a big help on finding out who stole things out of another persons locker, who started a fight, and other things that go on. They are now thinking of having us students use clear see through backpacks to make sure we don't have anything illegal in the backpack. I do not agree with this at all. I don't think it will be passed in our our county school. At least I hope not. I don't think the cameras are all that bad. They help alot and after a while you'll forget they are even there.

stuckonsushi, be aware. I'm not sying it was right, but that wasn't where it all originated.

Those "idiots", the "trouble-causers" were the ones being picked on, every day to an intolerable level no doubt. If the kids that had picked on them didn't exist, we probably wouldn't need to worry about privacy being invaded.

A school has hundreds of kids to look out for, for their safety, health, and life at the school. The school needs to know what is going on and that means that the students have no privacy.
In some schools(or all, I don't know), once you enter the school the student has no rights except those that the school grants...it's for the concern of the student.

If we got the same amount of privacy that we got at home, in school...it'd be chaos! People could bring ANYTHING to school. Or fight ANYONE ANYWHERE! doesnt some of this security make you feel a little bit safer...sometimes it may feel like jail...but if its keeping you alive...who can complain?

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Of course we deserve privacy, it should be our right.

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Yes, we deserve privacy, but privacy in your house is different than privacy in an environment which is buisness like. Since school has people who watch over you and it is not your house, you aren't entitled to the same amount of privacy.

Of course we deserve privacy, it should be our right. But look where those trouble-causers have gotten us in our search for more privacy: more rules and restrictions, and suspicion from others.

I think that cameras are a good way to be able to see what really goes on if a fight or other occurence (like Pixie's) happens. It definitely isn't a pleasant thing to think that other people behind a camera may be watching you, but it sure saves some headaches in he-said-she-said situations and gives us some more security while attending school. If idiots like the 2 guys from Columbine and others that decide they want to bring knives to school didn't exist, then there would not be much of a need for security. But because of people that enjoy doing wrong we have keys to our homes, security alarms, police, tear gas, and all those other things that keep us safer.
Unfortunately we all must pay the price for the wrong decisions of other people, and cameras help me feel a little safer while trying to get an education.

i live in a small town so there are about 1000 students that go to my school which is a middle school and high school. Their are no camera's in my school but i really wish their was. Their was a talk about it two years ago but nothing happened. A wish that their were cameras because alot of kids are getting blamed for things that they haven't even done. If their were camera's they would be able to point to the right person instead of blaming an innocent person. I once was blamed for stealing $20, clothes, and a pair of sneakers with a friend because I happened to be in the high school lockeroom the day the things got stolen. if they had a camera on the outside of the door they probably would have pointed to the right person instead of blaming me and my friend. So i think cameras are a good idea.

wow that seems so weird to have fights in school... I live in a really protected suburb and as far as i know we have never had a serious fight. i know of 2 kids total who have ever brought weapons to school (a pocket knife and a gun) and they both got sent to military schools. all the parents stress education, so we basically never get snow days and if kids do something wrong its concealed or they are sent to boarding school or something.

we have cameras at the main doors, but last year my friend and i discovered that there was a side door that was always left unlocked and it would have been really easy for someone to break in. and all the lockdown drills we have are really stupid because its obvious what the 'keyword" is and anyone who tried to shoot in the school would know as soon as he or she was detected.

by the way, my school is 7-12 and we have about 800 people

and i think that when the good of society has a large obvious threat, it should be protected over the rights of the individual. I do think some privacy should be available, but if it has to be sacrificed for safety, i suppose it is a necessary evil.

Wow.

I think a large part of why people like to do so much stuff is because most kids at my school have the attitude and mindset that they won't be able to make too much of their life anyway, so they'll get some attention anyway they can. Sad, really. (Well kind of.)

Last year at my school of roughly 4000-5000 (methinks) there was a fight over drugs that involved the use of an illegal weapon. This year, there have been the usual fights and threats and what not. Our school has such a horrid reputation but even though there IS gang activity, it's not that prominant. People are afraid they will be targeted if they are a guest, but most fights at my school aren't random... They are between two friends/enemies/groups that have it out for people. I don't remember when the last random attack was, IF there was one.

Yea, size doesn't mean anything. My school is quite small and thankfully we haven't had any problems, but the bigger schools in the area haven't had much trouble with fighting either. I think it depends on the area and the people.

Well, just remember that just because you are in a city and there are more threats, doesn't mean there is a greater risk. In the last two years, our school (of roughly 1000 kids) has had a bomb go off, several *SERIOUS* fights and drugs along with threats. We aren't able to elude it just because we're closer to nonexistence.

I think we have cameras in my school... No one notices them, though, and some people know their schedules so they know how to do something without getting caught...

Mine is just a rural school, but we've had alot of bomb threats lately and that is the whole point behind all the "invasions of privacy" now. Alot of kids don't like it.
I just wanted to know what y'all thought about those kind of things.

At my school, we NEED the cameras, drug searches, ect. Kids have died at my school when we didnt have them. My school is the roughest in my town. They're fights everyday and many kids get caught with weapons. There were bomb threats and one even went off. The cameras and poice protect us from harm. I think they're needed in schools like mine.
-Sunset

That's a hard question, Karategirl. This is turning into something like a Patriot Act discussion. But, if it isn't really harming the individual, I suppose I would go with the good of society. I mean, it isn't imposing on anything you shouldn't be doing in the hall anyway, right?

i think that camera's aren't that bad... my schools have them in the halls outside and on the bus! but things have happened and if there is sum one denying it then we can prove it though the camera's... and i mean it's not like it is RLY invading your privicy? i mean what r u going to do that is so privet that they can't have it on tape @ schools..but i don't beleave in the drugs tests i think that high schoolers and middle schoolers can make there own choices on that and suffer the consiquences a figure things out on there own it is there choice what they want to do with there body... that is NONE of the schools business **my opinion**