I hate it when ppl say Harry Potter is evil. Anyone who says it is an idiot. Some say that its bad for a kid to want to be a wizard. but a child is supposed to use their imaginations. Snow White had a evil witch and spells and attempted murder in it but nobody is saying anything bad about it. Also ppl say that kids may want to become a wizard to hurt ppl but all the kid needs is a gun and they can do the same thing. So harry potter is not the evil one . People are the ones who are evil becouse they turn something as harmless as a book and turn it into an excuse for being mean. Also i think it is good for schools to ban religon becouse if you have a person who believes and budah and a girl who believes in god in one school they may get into a fight about whose religin is right.
I disagree when people say Harry Potter is "wrong". What has he done that has made him evil? What did that character in a fictional book do to diserve that name? I don't understand, can someone give meeh the answer?
it was written by a trashy waitress woman who wanted to make a good story to inspire kids to not worry about what other people think, follow your heart, find true friendship, and not to let your heart turn dark even if your life was hard. I think the books are really funny, and my favorite ghost is moaning myrtle (like when she was spying on harry while he was taking a bath)hehe
Ummmmm just what makes Lord of the Rings different from Harry in terms of affecting kids? I would much rather see children playing with sticks pretending to cast spells than kids with axes pretending to attack orcs (actually happened and my leg is still hurting).
I saw this on the news recently and I also found the news article from the official statement from the Catholic church, who said Harry Potter actually isn't an evil or devilish series.
quote:The Catholic Church realizes that the wizard books show moral lessons.
Fictional character Harry Potter is a good guy. Kids know it, and so does the Roman Catholic Church.
A ranking Catholic leader recently gave his blessing to the Harry Potter series that's a favorite of many young readers. The Catholic endorsement is noteworthy because some evangelical religious groups have criticized the Harry Potter storyline that involves witchcraft and wizards. They complain that the stories glamorize the occult. But the Catholic clergyman who participated in an exhaustive study of New Age practices dismissed the Harry Potter criticism because he said the stories contained valuable morals that stressed the difference between good and evil.
Reading sparks critical thinking, which is essential for a child to develop into a responsible adult.
I also happen to agree. At first I was one of the ppl who said Harry Potter was evio, even before I saw it, but when I watched it, it was more about bravery, friendship, sacraficing yourself for others, and the forces of good and evil, and good always comes out on top.
avenger - i was saying that it didn't matter to me if you (or anyone) used everyday words like "attack" or fancy-schmancy words (like the ones dictionary.com "word-of-the-day" spits out) like "diatribe." i wasn't saying that you use one or the other; i was saying that it didn't matter to me which ones you use.
anyways, this argument is really heading off topic, so let's drop it.
KG... i've never been to dictionary.com, nor have i ever used the "word of the day". i do find that one to be an insult, i don't know if you meant it to be, but it was.
quote: and if your content is simply accusing all counter-arguments as nothing but ignorant rants from ignorant people- well, that's what i am challenging you to avoid because it's not accurate.
yeah that came out wrong then, the people i was calling ignorant were the people that bash me for the religion I fallow, but the second i state anything contrary to what they believe, im the bad guy. that is all
quote:and if your content is simply accusing all counter-arguments as nothing but ignorant rants from ignorant people- well, that's what i am challenging you to avoid because it's not accurate.
Your right, im sorry.
Gemini... Did i just ask you not to dig into this to deeply? are you looking for an argument with me? if you are not then stop taunting me.
Chick...
quote: avengerofgod, you think that arguing endlessly over something stupid is pleasing to God? i don't. why dont YOU grow up.
Something stupid? really? then why did you argue it too?
Don't try to cover up your sins by trying to pick out others.
quote:It isn't YOUR religion
Really? so this isn't the religion i fallow? is that what you are trying to tell me? im sorry but this is very much my religion, Not only mine, but still it is mine.
First off, I totally agree with jesuschick. Secondly, Harry Potter is more themed around witchcraft than Snow White is. Kids see Harry as a positive role model therefore they will want to practice witchcraft because he does. No one sees anything wrong with it because the adults think children have enough of a mindset reading the book that it isn't real. Children believe almost anything you tell them. I simply opt out of reading or seeing the movies of Harry Potter. I instead read and watch Lord of The Rings because it has a spiritual message with it. So, before you start arguing about people calling Harry Potter evil, go ask a kid that reads it what he thinks of it. They could be filling their head with many other positive material like the Bible.
avengerofgod, you think that arguing endlessly over something stupid is pleasing to God? i don't. why dont YOU grow up.
also:
quote: If you don't believe that I suggest you stop representing my religion and if you are going to represent my religion, represent it as a Luke Warm Christian.
1st off, you reference (among other things) what i posted in your post - and go on about how "you people" are all ignorant etc. excuse me for incorrectly assuming that i was a target of your lashing out.
2nd, i couldn't care less if you used monosyllabic words or the dictionary.com word-of-the-day - it's your content and ability to communicate that counts. and if your content is simply accusing all counter-arguments as nothing but ignorant rants from ignorant people- well, that's what i am challenging you to avoid because it's not accurate.
should you care what i think? no, not really. should you care what your thoughts/intentions are being interpreted as? maybe. *shrug*
actually, based upon your posts in other threads, i'm a bit surprised we're even having this conversation.
Gemini, He doesn't. It's just a nickname. I used to be called it because i would always "Avenge" (how they put it) God. Just means i stand up for my beliefs. Thats all. Don't dig into it deeper than that. please.
This is sort of off topic, but why does god (the Christian god, I presume) need an "avenger"? Doesn't that promote war/violence/revenge, which is against what god stands for? Just curious.
Just because you made the assumption that i said everybody, does not mean i said everybody.
"You people" Pertaining to the people that i described the the rest of the post.
I might sound unintellectual when i get angry, or to you i might sound unintelectual period, But here's the thing, im not trying to sound smart. I could drone on and on with a vocabulary that would leave most unintelligent people perplexed, but i don't. Because i want everyone to understand what i am saying. All they have to do is be able to read. Well actually read what i wrote. ~shawn
at least i don't revert to the intellectual equivalent of a temper tantrum when people challenge my beliefs. many of us are simply disagreeing with the assessment of harry potter as "evil"; very few of us have attempted to deprive you of your right to label it as such.
you may find a more receptive audience if you direct your attempts at moral outrage more specifically. addressing everyone as ignorant is hardly accurate and you only lessen your own claim to intellect with it.
I said that i will not change my mind, becaue i WILL NOT change my mind. I have heard both sides the story, and i have made a decision.
Why can you not accept the fact that i believe what i believe? really i wanna know. Does it offend you that i Don't want to read the Books? or are you just trying to make an ignorant argument our of nothing?
And i am gonna say this again. Go ahead and read the books.
quote:All I have to say her is, Grow Up. Its my belief that Harry potter books are evil, and no matter what ignorant argument you bring up, I will always believe Harry potter books are evil.
Did you read your post? and you're telling other people to grow up? You're awfully close-minded; "I'm not going to change my mind no matter what you say". Why not be open if someone has a good arguement? Did you even read the Harry Potter books?
I don't know how to address you people... You hate someone for their beliefs, Then turn and bash Christians (or other religions) for only believing in their religion. All I have to say her is, Grow Up. Its my belief that Harry potter books are evil, and no matter what ignorant argument you bring up, I will always believe Harry potter books are evil.
Because I know you people are going to take this out of context, that's what you do..., I did NOT say that you CANNOT read Harry potter books. I will never say not to read Harry potter books. Unless of course you are striving for a relationship with Christ. Cause reading those books is not worship to God. Just like listening to secular music is not worshipful to God, Just like watching secular Movies is not Worshipful to god, Just like watching secular TV is not worshipful to God. If you don't believe that I suggest you stop representing my religion and if you are going to represent my religion, represent it as a Luke Warm Christian. I'm sick and tired of hypocrites.
so, america wants us to read, and then says that certain books are "evil?" I'm sorry,but that may be the stupidest thing ever. as an avid reader, and a GIGANTIC Harry Potter fan, I'm surprised to think taht canyone could find this adorable series evil? I mean, come on, 5-year old HP fans are most likely not going to turn to Satanism after reading the books. And that is even besides the point. There is nothing wrong with witchcraft, or the people who practice it. Also, the magic practiced in HP is not REAL witchcraft, it's make-believe, the point of children's fiction. but, that involves using your imagination, which ic against aMerican beliefs today, so.....
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