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Registered: December 02, 2002
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im 14 i live in a nice little town and go to school in a brandnew building. im in 8th grade so im in a middle school. i have a group of friends that do drugs. i of course dont and i try and try to get them to stop. they usualy smoke right before school. in 6th grade my friend luis got taken in a police van out of our school hand cuffed and everything. this year they dont even notice the drug use. during D.A.R.E even the kids that used drugs passed. i just cant understand how it can be so strict one year and nothing the next? and now there even talking about stopping the D.A.R.E programs! what will happen then? please write and help me! confused
Registered: January 27, 2003
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I totally agree with you. Some people who do drugs, only do them because their friends do drugs. It is our own responsibility to keep ourselves and our friends out of them. Razz
Registered: December 29, 2002
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Thanks jStar.........I wonder why I never heard of the D.A.R.E program or any program out there. I guess it's because none of the kids I know trust the grown ups enough to tell them anything, they are in fear of getting into something that they didn't want.
I'm glad I don't take drugs. But I do sometimes need medication for headaches, It's not the same thing, I know, but I'm scared that I might get hooked on that so I don't take anything at all. But sometimes the pain is so overwhelming is makes me want to cry and fall into a deep asleep so I guess I have to take it then Frown
Well Bye N Have a nice day
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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Are you saying you want music to be censored by the goverment?!?

As far as the DARE program the reason they are eliminating it is because it hasnt been working.

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If America wanted to stop drug use they would promote programs like afterschool programs and fun programs that kids could do instead of wasting their precious time and body on drugs. I am totally againist drugs and the people who choose to promote them!


Man, all the kids who use drugs would just as willing to use them at an afterschool program. When i was on the tennis team i used to smoke a little MJ before i went to practice. So you can use drugs but still not waste your time/body.

I'm not promoting drugs, and im not saying you should go get stoned. Just dont hate the people that do, there is a lot more than it seems. Eek
Registered: December 03, 2002
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I believe America is promoting drugs more than trying to help take them off of the streets. Just look at some of the songs artists sing,they are about drugs. And this thing about taking the D.A.R.E. programs out of schools is crazy. Whats wrong with this picture? If America wanted to stop drug use they would promote programs like afterschool programs and fun programs that kids could do instead of wasting their precious time and body on drugs. I am totally againist drugs and the people who choose to promote them! Mad
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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I wouldnt worry about it if i were you. Once you are done with middle school you will start realizing all the lies that have been fed to you throught the years.
Lots of people do drugs, especially marijuana. Everyone i have ever talked to has at least "tried" it. I know of two teachers at my former highschool that smoked regularly. My parents have done every drug under the sun.
So my advice would be to wait. I dont think i was truley even aware of what drugs were in 8th grade.
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Registered: January 17, 2003
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That's sad! I really dislike and feel pity for those teens that use drugs. It must feel aweful for you see your friends using drugs and the school not doing anything to stop it. I live in a big city,and must ppl think that if you live in a big city most of the teens in school use drugs, but that's not the case. In my school they have programs like D.A.R.E and they always have meetings and assemblies for students talking about drugs and how to get help if you are using drugs. Advise-I know they'e your friends, and I hope that u have talked to them about drugs and that they need help.Talk to your counsil or talked to their parents about it. However, if they haven't listened to you, you shouldn't be hanging around them anymore. Their influences and influenced you to use drugs too. I mean, it could happen, so be careful. AND...this happen...so stay out of trouble. Smile
Registered: July 08, 2002
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girly~ at 8th grade drugs seem a terrible thing(partly due to propaghanda at school and in the mass media) the drugs of middle school is pot. pot is harmless and it should be legal but thats another point.
the whole idea about ratting ur friends out is bs what kinda of a friend would do that? I would spend a night in jail before I would tell an aouthority figure a friend does drugs.
i am a junior as well and pt is used as alcohol is widely. Heroine is non-existant. A few kids do X or acid, a good number do prescription pills, but the insenuation that weed is a gate way drug is unfounded.
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Registered: April 18, 2002
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believe me, it just gets worse as you get older. now your friends are smoking dope and cigarettes... in a year or two it'll be heroin and god only knows what.

the gateway theory has never been proved; for every government study that supports it there are 2 independent studies that refute it.

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the only thing i can do or say to get my friends to stop, is tell them they are idiots and losers and they'll never amount to anything.

total hyperbole. i know lots of graduate and medical students that recreationally use drugs. many people accomplish things while experimenting with drugs.

i would think that a true friend would express concern for their friends' well-being. i would tell them to be careful because using drugs can be a dangerous game. i would tell my friends that, if they insist on doing drugs, to try to keep at least one sober person around in case things get bad. i would tell my friends that they should educate themselves on their drug use - know what things in particular they should be aware of to try and minimize risks.

i don't know, the "you're stupid" approach may work for some people, but i really doubt its efficacy for the vast majority of situations.
Registered: December 03, 2002
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DARE was a program in mostly middle schools. At my middle school, a "DARE cop" came to our school once a week and we'd go to a little lesson about how bad drugs are. So basically...a drug prevention program. The problem, however, was that it just didn't work. In fact, some people got interested in drugs because of DARE.




I think the problem with DARE is bad timing. I had DARE in elementary school ... we barely even knew what alcohol was! We honestly didn't have to worry about drugs at that point in our lives.

I didn't know of anyone my age doing drugs until high school. By this time, no one's really telling us "don't do drugs" ... were we supposed to carry the anti-drug torch all the way from elementary school?

I just think the DARE program is naive. Kids need to be convinced, not told, not to do drugs.

I don't do them, even though I could if I wanted to. I'm convinced that I can't have what I want if I do drugs. We should find a way to convince all kids of that.
Registered: November 06, 2002
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DARE was a program in mostly middle schools. At my middle school, a "DARE cop" came to our school once a week and we'd go to a little lesson about how bad drugs are. So basically...a drug prevention program. The problem, however, was that it just didn't work. In fact, some people got interested in drugs because of DARE.

As far as what you can do to stop others from doing drugs...first of all, I want to say that I really respect your decision not to do drugs. I grew up in a city that doesn't really have much drugs, and drugs were not an issue until high school, so I am impressed by your decision. I guess my advice would just be to stay strongly against drug use, and set an example for others. Let them know that you don't have to do drugs to have fun...make them realize how much money they waste on drugs!
Registered: December 29, 2002
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Well, what is D.A.R.E programs? It had to be a program to get people off drugs, right? I don't know, I never heard of it. Well, to tell you the truth, I never heard of any program that could help people with drugs problems or any problems for that matter.
I been around drugs a lot since I was little, but my mom and big sister protected me good from the drugs and danger that went on so I don't really remember. But now I'm not a little girl anymore and they can't protect me when I step foot out those doors. It's my choice and I choose not to do it but not everyone is like that so how do I stop those people?
Well, Bye N Have a nice day
Cynthia
Registered: January 12, 2003
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hi, i'm a junior in high school and i saw the same stuff when i was your age... believe me, it just gets worse as you get older. now your friends are smoking dope and cigarettes... in a year or two it'll be heroin and god only knows what. the only thing i can do or say to get my friends to stop, is tell them they are idiots and losers and they'll never amount to anything. some of them stop using because they get annoyed with my insulting them. others quit out of their own free will... some don't quit at all. just pray for them and talk to them... most of the time, adults don't help the situation out, but it's worth a shot once in a while. i hope the drug usage in your school decreases and i encourage you never to do it either... i used to... it was the dumbest thing i've ever done. just say, "no."
god bless,
~snoopyD~
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Registered: April 18, 2002
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actually, MDMA (ecstasy) usage is increasing, where heroin, cocaine, and speed use has decreased over the last 10 years. marijuana is still about the same - 50% of american students will have tried marijuana (according to this survey, where n=20,000) by the time they graduate. alcohol is also fairly steady. i believe that LSD has made a slight comeback in recent years.

http://monitoringthefuture.org
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Registered: August 05, 2002
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a recent national drug survey found that drug use in middleschool and highschool is falling..... all accept marijuanna.
uhhhahaha.legalizeit.

no seriously though, drugs are bad. do other stuff like botchieball or frisbie golf or hackysack instead big grin. does this make me a hypocrite? kinda. i can't speak for anyone else, so i can't enforce my beliefs on anyone else. period.

just don't expect, "thanks for throwing me in prison and ruining my life to better your utopia", from all the grateful teens you arrest.
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Registered: March 11, 2002
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To Joey: 44 percent to education, huh? That's funny because for all that money, my cousins are still dumber than snot. And besides, quality, not quantity.

PrincessMonica, oh man. This "treat and get better" thing, well, it doesn't really always work. Especially regarding drugs and mental health. It's not like it's the flu or anything. Putting the blame on girly, saying it's partly her fault her friends use drugs is rather tactless and completely untrue. She has no control over what they chose to do.

Jill, cannabis is virtually the only option for middleschoolers. And I do not recommend talking to a counselor, for they are full of ****. If you have a brain, you can manipulate the conversation and breeze over whatever they dragged you into their office for. Trust me.

Like loc said, if the kids don't want help, they won't take it. Simple as that.
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Registered: August 14, 2001
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Assumptions, assumptions...
Registered: April 03, 2002
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they usualy smoke right before school.


That and the fact that they're middleschoolers
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Registered: August 14, 2001
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Uh, who said they were doing cannabis?? They could be involved in more hard core stuff as well...

Sure, young people also have a choice as to whether they engage in, say, risky sexual behavior or street racing, but girly8124 doesn't want to see her friends getting involved in activities that could mess up their developing young minds and their futures. Maybe you should talk to a counselor first, girly, about your friends (you don't have to mention their names) rather than going straight to their parents first. I wouldn't recommend going straight to school officials, though... I'd prefer to save that for a$$wipes that give you a hard time. );D
Registered: April 03, 2002
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Well you should tell someone about your friends doing drugs.

This is a perfect illustration of the narc mentality that DARE instills into people.


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If you tell than they may be punished but they will also be treated for their problem and then be better.

It is doubtful that the have any problem that warrants treatment, seeing as cannabis is not addictive and that if someone doesnt want to quit something, they will not. Furthermore, getting your friends busted immediately turns into getting your enemies busted, if you follow. Mind your own business and let them do as they choose.

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if they dont listen you have no choice but to tell.
Wtf ? Again, illustrates my point about the DARE manipulation tactics. This is why 60 percent of people in treatment are there for cannabis, not because it is addictive, but because they are forced to go by various government institutions or parents as an alaternative to jail, in the case of government, or if a parent insists that they need it, as is often the case with many today.
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