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Originally posted by in4ar3d:
You know there is another thing called.. HONORS or AP. Usually those type of kids arent in those classes.

Yeah, ususally but not always. Unfortunately at my school, any kid can get into any class with either a teacher signature or---if he can't get that---a parent signature. So, while the honors and AP classes are usually about 90-95% filled with kids who want to learn, there are always a few "bad apples" and sometimes honors classes and AP classes (like the one I'm currently taking) are filled with slackers.

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You know there is another thing called.. HONORS or AP. Usually those type of kids arent in those classes.

I think having seperate schools would make more sense, but it isn't a "problem" for me because I am in accelerated/honors classes with kids who want to learn and get an education. But even when i had to be in the same class as the troublemakers, they still didn't really bother me. I just laughed at their careless behavior.

Yeah, that's not a funny joke. Some are actually better than private or patriarchal schools. But they're always separated when it comes to scoring, so it just isn't official.

If the kids that you are talking about don't want to learn, than why send them to another school? Wouldn't it be pointless to do that?

Not a funny joke, Barkid. I'm proud of my public school and I do want to learn.

kids like that at my school get sent to AEC...

There is a school for kids whom don't want to learn, it's called PUBLIC school...

That's a joke by the way.

Smaller schools rarely, if ever, have them though. You're extremely lucky to feel confident that every school has them in order to mention it-my school has only 3-4 CP (Honors) and 3 APs, and another 2-3 RS (Worth College credit no matter what). And my school is actually larger than most rural schools.

You know there is another thing called.. HONORS or AP. Usually those type of kids arent in those classes.

Sounds like an OK idea, but how would these schools be funded? Government won't even think about it, considering they are hardly involved with or funding public schools as it is. A new tax for financing it would never pass, and private institutions won't make any sort of success with this notion, and therefore won't consider it. And moving a problem somehere else never solves it. What we need to do instead is change the factors of environment/mindset (however unlikely) of the children who do not want to participate in school. "No Child Left Behind" is a weak attempt, but war is the first priority right now, and unfortunately public or even private schools will never be.

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Kids like that should be slapped

I seriously agree. Nothing like this happened back when a ruler could be applied to the back of the head.

To parallax and Maxno: I see where you're coming from but...

The school my county has for kids who don't want to learn actually helps them be more focused and to go to school in an environment where they aren't "weird"---everyone else has problems like they do. And a lot of "problem children" are like that because of either family problems or learning disabilities and it helps them more than it hurts them to go to a separate school.

The reason why I support this isn't because I want those kids out of my school (they don't bother me) but because I think it's better not only for the kids that want to learn but for them as well....it makes them want to learn and gives them a few more social skills before they go out and live in the real world.

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The US may be one of the only countries in which a free, good, education program is given and students do not appreciate it.

Definitely agreed, but I've heard some European countries (ie, UK) are not diong so hot either.

Yes, and we should call it the School of Hard Knocks. oh the hilarity.

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well, think about that one school that would have all the bad people. they of course wouldn't get a very good education and being in the school would give them a bad reputation when they actually could be smart yet disruptive. it could be unfair to us if they came to the same school as "good kids" but depending on how u see it, it could also be unfair to put them in another school. but as for students who have SERIOUS problems, they would probably be put in a special ed class

I agree with Celtic...you have all these oppurtunities at your fingertips, yet a lotta people abuse them.

Actually, my high school has a set of temp buildings off to one side of the parking lot that make up the "Alternative School" for people just like that. That's where the problem kids and kids who have learning disabilities go to learn life skills and stuff like that instead of wasting their time in classes that they can't nor really want to understand.

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That's the way it already is where I live. There's a separate school for "problem children" where, after so many mishaps, they end up going

Ditto.

The "problem children" are rewarded points for good behavior and deducted points for poor behavior. Once they accumulate a certain number of points, they're allowed to come back to the regular high school.

Kids like that should be slapped.

The US may be one of the only countries in which a free, good, education program is given and students do not appreciate it.